Biblical Hebrew Forum

[Shoshanna Walker <rosewalk AT concentric.net>]

Dear Harold

The translations you cite are not ones that I would respect, for 
reasons that you all know.  So let's not start an argument.

Shoshanna


Dear Shoshanna,
> All of the translations I have say "pained"

HH: Here are some translations that sell millions of books:

New American Standard Bible:
But He was pierced through for our transgressions,
He was crushed for our iniquities;
The chastening for our well-being fell upon Him,
And by His scourging we are healed.

Holman Christian Standard Bible:
But He was pierced through for our transgressions,
He was crushed for our iniquities;
The chastening for our well-being fell upon Him,
And by His scourging we are healed.

New Living Translation:
But he was pierced for our rebellion,
crushed for our sins.
He was beaten so we could be whole.
He was whipped so we could be healed.

Today's New International Version:
But he was pierced for our transgressions,
he was crushed for our iniquities;
the punishment that brought us peace was on him,
and by his wounds we are healed.

New American Bible:
But he was pierced for our offenses,
crushed for our sins,
Upon him was the chastisement that makes us whole,
by his stripes we were healed.

Several other major translations used "wounded" instead of "pierced":
King James Version, New King James Version, English Standard Version,
New Revised Standard Version.

> Anyway, it couldn't mean "pierced", because the subject is the people
> of Israel, how could you pierce a collection of people?

HH: Even some Jewish interpreters have taken this to be an individual,
not the people of Israel.
http://isaiah53.com/

Midrash Cohen

ìElijah says to Messiah:îBear the suffering and punishment of thy Lord
with which he chastises thee for the sins of Israel, as it is written,
ëHe is pressed for our rebellion ñ crushed for our iniquitiesí until the
end come"

Midrash Thanhumi, Babylonian Talmud

Rabbi Nahman says, the word ìman in the passageÖrefers to the Messiah,
the son of David, as it is written, ìBehold the man whose name is Zemahî;
there Jonathan interprets, Behold the man Messiah: as it is said, ìa man
of pains and known to sickness.î

Maimonides

Regarding the mission by which Messiah will present himself, Öhe will
not commend himself to our veneration by reason of his noble extraction;
but the marvelous deeds he perform will show him to be the anticipated
MessiahÖIsaiah states, ìHe grew like a tender plant, and as a root out
of dry land, î signifying, that his exact descent will not be known,
till his successful career will direct peopleís attention to itÖBut a
noteworthy circumstance will be that crowned heads will stand amazedÖSo
they will come in utter silence, as Isaiah predicts, ìAt him will kings
shut their mouths, for what had not been told unto them shall they see,
and what they never heard they understand.

Yours,
Harold Holmyard

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