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Re: [b-hebrew] Dying, you will die Gen 2:17

From: Peter Kirk <peter AT qaya.org>
To: davidfentonism AT aim.com
Cc: b-hebrew AT lists.ibiblio.org
Subject: Re: [b-hebrew] Dying, you will die Gen 2:17
Date: Fri, 13 Apr 2007 16:55:48 +0100

On 13/04/2007 15:43, davidfentonism AT aim.com wrote:

Hello Peter:

I must disagree that the word plays work outside of Hebrew (whatever version) and I have been explicity been shown why not which is an explanation beyond my ability to reproduce here except descriptively as I have prior. Even in the Aramaic it is not the same. You can view the Peshitta online (http://www.standardversion.org/index-aesv.php).

I can't speak for Aramaic, but I know that Arabic has all the following words, not sure of all the spellings:

آدم 'âdam = "human being"; "Adam"
آدمة 'âdama(t) = not "ground" but "skin"

حوّا ḥawwâ = "Eve"
حىّ ḥyy = "live"

انسان 'insân = "man"
ناس nâs = "people"
انثى unthay (?) = "woman"

So almost the same word plays work. This implies that they are common at least to West Semitic, although perhaps 'adama has not survived in all languages.

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Peter Kirk
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Re: [b-hebrew] Dying, you will die Gen 2:17 , (continued)
- Re: [b-hebrew] Dying, you will die Gen 2:17, Shoshanna Walker, 04/10/2007
  - Re: [b-hebrew] Dying, you will die Gen 2:17, Peter Kirk, 04/10/2007
    - Re: [b-hebrew] Dying, you will die Gen 2:17, davidfentonism, 04/11/2007
      - Re: [b-hebrew] Dying, you will die Gen 2:17, Harold Holmyard, 04/11/2007
        
        Re: [b-hebrew] Dying, you will die Gen 2:17, davidfentonism, 04/11/2007
        
        Re: [b-hebrew] Dying, you will die Gen 2:17, Harold Holmyard, 04/11/2007
        
        Re: [b-hebrew] Dying, you will die Gen 2:17, davidfentonism, 04/13/2007
        Re: [b-hebrew] Dying, you will die Gen 2:17, Peter Kirk, 04/13/2007
        Re: [b-hebrew] Dying, you will die Gen 2:17, davidfentonism, 04/13/2007
        Re: [b-hebrew] Dying, you will die Gen 2:17, Peter Kirk, 04/13/2007
        Re: [b-hebrew] Dying, you will die Gen 2:17, davidfentonism, 04/13/2007
        
        Re: [b-hebrew] Dying, you will die Gen 2:17, Harold Holmyard, 04/13/2007
        Re: [b-hebrew] Dying, you will die Gen 2:17, davidfentonism, 04/14/2007
  - Re: [b-hebrew] Dying, you will die Gen 2:17, Harold Holmyard, 04/10/2007
  - Re: [b-hebrew] Dying, you will die Gen 2:17, davidfentonism, 04/11/2007
- Re: [b-hebrew] Dying, you will die Gen 2:17, Shoshanna Walker, 04/10/2007
  - Re: [b-hebrew] Dying, you will die Gen 2:17, Harold Holmyard, 04/10/2007
    - Re: [b-hebrew] Dying, you will die Gen 2:17, Peter Kirk, 04/11/2007
      - Re: [b-hebrew] Dying, you will die Gen 2:17, Harold Holmyard, 04/11/2007
        
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