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- From: Harold Holmyard <hholmyard3 AT earthlink.net>
- To: b-hebrew AT lists.ibiblio.org
- Subject: Re: [b-hebrew] Dying, you will die Gen 2:17
- Date: Fri, 13 Apr 2007 06:58:31 -0500
davidfentonism AT aim.com wrote:
Harold,
The only obstacles here are the misinterpretation of the Scriptures which led to erroneous conclusions. You know Hashem changes not (Mal. 3:6). He gave One Covenant which is eternal. The covenants with Noah, Avraham, Moses do not alter Hashem's plan. Looking at it in a linear (rather than cyclical) fashion creates this problem. The Avrahamic covenant did not nullify the Noahide any more than Y'shua's nullified the previous ones. It built upon them. The Renewed Covenant contains all prior ones from Adam to David except it was an upgrade; made full of meaning by Y'shua as the Pesach Lamb of Eloah rather than the blood of goats and bulls. It was both a renewal and new (in the sense that Y'shua was the superlative sacrifice). Y'shua supports and expands the prior covenants, He did not cancel them.
HH: The fact that God does not change in his essential character (Mal 3:6) does not mean that he does not act differently at different times, for the Bible shows that he does. You must prove claims such as there being "one covenant" from the Bible itself, which you have not done so far. There are actually quite a number of covenants, and to suggest that they cannot imply a change in God's procedures is a big claim. Frankly, Jer 31:31-33 itself shows that it is unsustainable because it posits a difference between the Mosaic covenant and the new covenant., which, as Gary, stressed, is not like the old covenant.
HH: Your claim to not be a Christian is odd in the face of your comments above. You are putting yourself forward as a disciple of Y'shua by your comments above, not to mention you quotation of Gal. 3:27-29 at the bottom of your posts. You may be giving a technical meaning to the word "Christian" that is not true to the NT, which uses it as an umbrella terms for all the disciples of Y'shua. By the way, you need to add the chapter number 3 to your quote of Gal 3:27-29. Right now all you have are the verse numbers and the book abbreviation.
Yours,
Harold Holmyard
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Re: [b-hebrew] Dying, you will die Gen 2:17
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Re: [b-hebrew] Dying, you will die Gen 2:17,
davidfentonism, 04/11/2007
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Re: [b-hebrew] Dying, you will die Gen 2:17,
Harold Holmyard, 04/11/2007
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Re: [b-hebrew] Dying, you will die Gen 2:17,
davidfentonism, 04/11/2007
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Re: [b-hebrew] Dying, you will die Gen 2:17,
Gary Hedrick, 04/11/2007
- Re: [b-hebrew] Dying, you will die Gen 2:17, Yohanan bin-Dawidh, 04/12/2007
- Re: [b-hebrew] Dying, you will die Gen 2:17, Harold Holmyard, 04/12/2007
- Re: [b-hebrew] Dying, you will die Gen 2:17, Yohanan bin-Dawidh, 04/12/2007
- Re: [b-hebrew] Dying, you will die Gen 2:17, Isaac Fried, 04/12/2007
- Re: [b-hebrew] Dying, you will die Gen 2:17, Harold Holmyard, 04/12/2007
- Re: [b-hebrew] Dying, you will die Gen 2:17, davidfentonism, 04/13/2007
- Re: [b-hebrew] Dying, you will die Gen 2:17, Harold Holmyard, 04/13/2007
- Re: [b-hebrew] Dying, you will die Gen 2:17, davidfentonism, 04/14/2007
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Re: [b-hebrew] Dying, you will die Gen 2:17,
Gary Hedrick, 04/11/2007
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Re: [b-hebrew] Dying, you will die Gen 2:17,
davidfentonism, 04/11/2007
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Re: [b-hebrew] Dying, you will die Gen 2:17,
Harold Holmyard, 04/11/2007
- Re: [b-hebrew] Dying, you will die Gen 2:17, davidfentonism, 04/13/2007
- Re: [b-hebrew] New or Renewed in Jeremiah 31:31?, Gary Hedrick, 04/13/2007
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Re: [b-hebrew] Dying, you will die Gen 2:17,
davidfentonism, 04/11/2007
- Re: [b-hebrew] Dying, you will die Gen 2:17, davidfentonism, 04/13/2007
- Re: [b-hebrew] New or Renewed in Jeremiah 31:31?, Gary Hedrick, 04/13/2007
- Re: [b-hebrew] New or Renewed in Jeremiah 31:31?, Yigal Levin, 04/13/2007
- Re: [b-hebrew] New or Renewed in Jeremiah 31:31?, Yohanan bin-Dawidh, 04/13/2007
- Re: [b-hebrew] New or Renewed in Jeremiah 31:31?, Yigal Levin, 04/13/2007
- Re: [b-hebrew] New or Renewed in Jeremiah 31:31?, Harold Holmyard, 04/13/2007
- Re: [b-hebrew] New or Renewed in Jeremiah 31:31?, Yohanan bin-Dawidh, 04/13/2007
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