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Re: [b-hebrew] verb forms - Isaiah 56:6-7 was dying you shall die
- From: Harold Holmyard <hholmyard3 AT earthlink.net>
- To: b-hebrew AT lists.ibiblio.org
- Subject: Re: [b-hebrew] verb forms - Isaiah 56:6-7 was dying you shall die
- Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2007 09:46:37 -0500
Dear Liz,
Oh, I don't insist on anything but that verbs in Yiqtal be translatedYes, but my main point is that this is not necessarily appropriate.
bytheEnglish future (and verbs in Qatal by English past tense), that's all I
insist on. ...
Rather often in biblical Hebrew YIQTOL does not have a future meaning,
but a past or present continuous one. Or at least that is my
understanding of the Hebrew verb system, although of course it is
controversial. The problem comes when YIQTOL in biblical Hebrew is read
as if it were the future tense in modern Hebrew.
Peter is absolutely right, except that the assertion is not even a matter of controversy. YIQTOL does signify the future in biblical Hebrew, but that is not all it does. It is the imperfective, and the imperfective might be considered appropriate for the future, since future actions are usually not yet complete. But the imperfective is also used for actions that are in progress or for actions that are iterative, intermittent, prolonged, or stative. These can be in the present or past:
Judg 7:5: whoever laps with his tongue
Ex 23:8 a bribe blind officials
Gen 2:6 streams would come up from the ground
1 Sam 1:7 and so he used to do annually
1 Kgs 8:6 a stairway led up to the middle level
Since the YIQTOL may be a blending of two earlier verb forms in West Semitic, its older forms may even indicate a simple past:
Ex 15:1: then Moses sang
1 Kings 3:16: then two prostitutes came to the king
The YIQTOL has all sorts of modal uses as well, which call for helping verbs in English like "can, would, could, may, should, must, want, will.
The YIQTOL can also function as an imperative:
Ps 51:9: cleanse me with hyssop
Gen 1:9: let dry land appear
Yours,
Harold Holmyard
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Re: [b-hebrew] verb forms - Isaiah 56:6-7 was dying you shall die
, (continued)
- Re: [b-hebrew] verb forms - Isaiah 56:6-7 was dying you shall die, Peter Kirk, 04/11/2007
- Re: [b-hebrew] verb forms - Isaiah 56:6-7 was dying you shall die, Peter Kirk, 04/11/2007
- Re: [b-hebrew] verb forms - Isaiah 56:6-7 was dying you shall die, K Randolph, 04/11/2007
- Re: [b-hebrew] verb forms - Isaiah 56:6-7 was dying you shall die, Peter Kirk, 04/11/2007
- Re: [b-hebrew] verb forms - Isaiah 56:6-7 was dying you shall die, K Randolph, 04/12/2007
- Re: [b-hebrew] verb forms - Isaiah 56:6-7 was dying you shall die, Peter Kirk, 04/12/2007
- Re: [b-hebrew] verb forms - Isaiah 56:6-7 was dying you shall die, Lisbeth S. Fried, 04/11/2007
- Re: [b-hebrew] verb forms - Isaiah 56:6-7 was dying you shall die, Peter Kirk, 04/12/2007
- Re: [b-hebrew] verb forms - Isaiah 56:6-7 was dying you shall die, Isaac Fried, 04/12/2007
- Re: [b-hebrew] verb forms - Isaiah 56:6-7 was dying you shall die, Lisbeth S. Fried, 04/12/2007
- Re: [b-hebrew] verb forms - Isaiah 56:6-7 was dying you shall die, Harold Holmyard, 04/12/2007
- Re: [b-hebrew] verb forms - Isaiah 56:6-7 was dying you shall die, Lisbeth S. Fried, 04/12/2007
- [b-hebrew] verb forms - Isaiah 56:6-7 was dying you shall die, michaelabernat9001, 04/12/2007
- Re: [b-hebrew] verb forms - Isaiah 56:6-7 was dying you shall die, Lisbeth S. Fried, 04/12/2007
- Re: [b-hebrew] verb forms - Isaiah 56:6-7 was dying you shall die, Vadim Cherny, 04/13/2007
- Re: [b-hebrew] verb forms - Isaiah 56:6-7 was dying you shall die, Isaac Fried, 04/16/2007
- Re: [b-hebrew] verb forms - Isaiah 56:6-7 was dying you shall die, Peter Kirk, 04/12/2007
- Re: [b-hebrew] verb forms - Isaiah 56:6-7 was dying you shall die, K Randolph, 04/11/2007
- Re: [b-hebrew] verb forms - Isaiah 56:6-7 was dying you shall die, Yitzhak Sapir, 04/12/2007
- Re: [b-hebrew] verb forms - Isaiah 56:6-7 was dying you shall die, K Randolph, 04/14/2007
- Re: [b-hebrew] Dying, you will die Gen 2:17, Harold Holmyard, 04/11/2007
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