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  • From: Harold Holmyard <hholmyard3 AT earthlink.net>
  • To: b-hebrew AT lists.ibiblio.org
  • Subject: Re: [b-hebrew] Dying, you will die Gen 2:17
  • Date: Wed, 11 Apr 2007 16:44:49 -0500

Peter Kirk wrote:
On 11/04/2007 22:01, Harold Holmyard wrote:
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HH: I never said it was intended to be "a simply racial religion."

I did not intend to suggest that you did. But it is a position held by some Jews in ancient times, and maybe by some today. However, it was not Isaiah's position, nor Moses' according to your Numbers 15 quotes.


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I don't see 56:1 "close at hand ... will soon be revealed" as temporal at all, there is no "soon" in the Hebrew but only QAROB which means "near", usually in space.

HH: The word "near" can be used of time:

I know, that is why I wrote "usually". Of course on your interpretation "near" means 800 years in the future, and on Shoshanna's at least 2800.

HH: I understand that Isaiah is prophesying about different eras at the same time, using one as a type of another. He is prophesying of the near future of the return from Babylonian Captivity at the grace of Cyrus. He is using Cyrus to point to a Messianic deliverer for Israel that will follow Cyrus. He is pointing to a deliverance for Israel that will be like the Babylonian deliverance but will be the result of the Messiah's work and will usher in a new heavens and earth.

HH: The perspective of "near," of course, is in divine time, and can signify thousands of years. A thousand year is as a day with him, a watch in the night (Ps 90:4).

Yours,
Harold Holmyard





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