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- From: Dave Washburn <dwashbur AT nyx.net>
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- Subject: Re: [b-hebrew] Daniel 6:27 (time indefinite) II
- Date: Mon, 21 Nov 2005 09:50:17 -0700
On Friday 18 November 2005 09:51, Robert Newman wrote:
> Peter wrote:
> Robert, I have not brushed off the examples of PAST `olam which you
> gave, but have accepted that they, and this is also true of your new
> ones, are somewhat different from the future examples, such that they
> cannot be rendered "for ever" in English. But I continue to insist that
> the meaning here is something like "since the very beginning", that at
> least in the understanding of the author there was no time before the
> beginning of that `olam period. That is more or less a definition of
> eternity past.
>
> Hi Peter,
> I understand your argument, but I don't see how it fits the examples.
>
> Ge 6:4 "heroes of old" - olam refers back to the time of the Nephilim, not
> the "very beginning" and not eternity past from tne viewpoint of the
> writer!
>
> De 32:7 "Remember the days of old" when? "ask your father to inform you"
> about what? The period of human history described in the subsequent verses,
> not 'the beginning of time'.
>
> Jos 24:2 "long ago your forefathers" . How can this mean "ever since
> creation, as far as we know"?
[snip]
I notice that two of these examples are actually M"(OWLFM. I can't help
wondering if the addition of the preposition alters the sense of the term in
some way?
--
Dave Washburn
http://www.nyx.net/~dwashbur
"Maybe I'll trade it for a new hat."
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Re: [b-hebrew] Daniel 6:27 (time indefinite) II
, (continued)
- Re: [b-hebrew] Daniel 6:27 (time indefinite) II, Bryant J. Williams III, 11/18/2005
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Re: [b-hebrew] Daniel 6:27 (time indefinite) II,
Karl Randolph, 11/17/2005
- Re: [b-hebrew] Daniel 6:27 (time indefinite) II, Peter Kirk, 11/18/2005
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Re: [b-hebrew] Daniel 6:27 (time indefinite) II,
Karl Randolph, 11/17/2005
- Re: [b-hebrew] Daniel 6:27 (time indefinite) II, Peter Kirk, 11/18/2005
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Re: [b-hebrew] Daniel 6:27 (time indefinite) II,
Karl Randolph, 11/17/2005
- Re: [b-hebrew] Daniel 6:27 (time indefinite) II, Peter Kirk, 11/18/2005
- Re: [b-hebrew] Daniel 6:27 (time indefinite) II, Awohili, 11/18/2005
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[b-hebrew] Daniel 6:27 (time indefinite) II,
Robert Newman, 11/18/2005
- Re: [b-hebrew] Daniel 6:27 (time indefinite) II, Peter Kirk, 11/18/2005
- Re: [b-hebrew] Daniel 6:27 (time indefinite) II, Dave Washburn, 11/21/2005
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Re: [b-hebrew] Daniel 6:27 (time indefinite) II,
Read, James C, 11/18/2005
- Re: [b-hebrew] Daniel 6:27 (time indefinite) II, Peter Kirk, 11/18/2005
- Re: [b-hebrew] Daniel 6:27 (time indefinite) II, Karl Randolph, 11/18/2005
- Re: [b-hebrew] Daniel 6:27 (time indefinite) II, Karl Randolph, 11/18/2005
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Re: [b-hebrew] Daniel 6:27 (time indefinite) II,
Awohili, 11/18/2005
- Re: [b-hebrew] Daniel 6:27 (time indefinite) II, Peter Kirk, 11/18/2005
- Re: [b-hebrew] Daniel 6:27 (time indefinite) II, Awohili, 11/18/2005
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Re: [b-hebrew] Daniel 6:27 (time indefinite) II,
Karl Randolph, 11/19/2005
- Re: [b-hebrew] Daniel 6:27 (time indefinite) II, Peter Kirk, 11/19/2005
- Re: [b-hebrew] Daniel 6:27 (time indefinite) II, Awohili, 11/19/2005
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