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- From: Peter Kirk <peterkirk AT qaya.org>
- To: Rolf Furuli <furuli AT online.no>
- Cc: b-hebrew AT lists.ibiblio.org
- Subject: Re: [b-hebrew] VERBS
- Date: Thu, 28 Jul 2005 20:15:11 +0100
On 28/07/2005 19:35, Rolf Furuli wrote:
I have noted that the distinguished authority on Bible translation, Peter Kirk, has made the judgement that Peter Newmark, who has worked with theoretical translation principles and practical translation throughout a long life, and whose book was awarded the prize of being the best book in a particular year, speaks nonsense.I have explained very clearly why one particular sentence, as quoted in a very limited context, is plainly nonsense at least when interpreted in the way you have interpreted it.
To be more precise, the statement "The SL (source language) texts consist of words, that is all that is there, on the page." is not in itself nonsense. What is nonsense is the argument which you seem to derive from it, and seem to attribute to Newmark although it is by no means clear that Newmark actually supports it. For you seem to take this statement as implying that texts must be analysed and translated word by word, and as support for your previous statement that "words are the units that we must deal with in order to analyse meaning in Hebrew". It is this implication which is nonsense, for the reasons I have already made clear. And it remains nonsense whether supported by Newmark, Chomsky, or an angel from heaven.
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Re: [b-hebrew] VERBS
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- Re: [b-hebrew] VERBS, Shoshanna Walker, 07/26/2005
- [b-hebrew] verbs, Yigal Levin, 07/26/2005
- Re: [b-hebrew] VERBS, Dr. Joel M. Hoffman, 07/27/2005
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Re: [b-hebrew] VERBS,
Dr. Joel M. Hoffman, 07/27/2005
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Re: [b-hebrew] VERBS,
Rolf Furuli, 07/27/2005
- Re: [b-hebrew] VERBS, Dave Washburn, 07/27/2005
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Re: [b-hebrew] VERBS,
Rolf Furuli, 07/27/2005
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Re: [b-hebrew] VERBS,
Read, James C, 07/27/2005
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Re: [b-hebrew] VERBS,
Rolf Furuli, 07/28/2005
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Re: [b-hebrew] VERBS,
Peter Kirk, 07/28/2005
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Re: [b-hebrew] VERBS,
Rolf Furuli, 07/28/2005
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Re: [b-hebrew] VERBS,
Peter Kirk, 07/28/2005
- Re: [b-hebrew] VERBS, Rolf Furuli, 07/28/2005
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Re: [b-hebrew] VERBS,
Peter Kirk, 07/28/2005
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Re: [b-hebrew] VERBS,
Rolf Furuli, 07/28/2005
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Re: [b-hebrew] VERBS,
Peter Kirk, 07/28/2005
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Re: [b-hebrew] VERBS,
Rolf Furuli, 07/28/2005
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Re: [b-hebrew] Verbs,
Steve Miller, 07/27/2005
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Re: [b-hebrew] Verbs,
Rolf Furuli, 07/28/2005
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Re: [b-hebrew] Verbs,
Harold R. Holmyard III, 07/28/2005
- Re: [b-hebrew] Verbs, Ken Penner, 07/28/2005
- Re: [b-hebrew] Verbs, Rolf Furuli, 07/28/2005
- Re: [b-hebrew] Verbs, George Athas, 07/31/2005
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Re: [b-hebrew] Verbs,
B. M. Rocine, 07/28/2005
- Re: [b-hebrew] Verbs, Rolf Furuli, 07/29/2005
- Re: [b-hebrew] Verbs, text-segmenting and clause-types, B. M. Rocine, 07/28/2005
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Re: [b-hebrew] Verbs,
Harold R. Holmyard III, 07/28/2005
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Re: [b-hebrew] Verbs,
Rolf Furuli, 07/28/2005
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