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- From: "C. Stirling Bartholomew" <threetreepoint AT earthlink.net>
- To: <b-hebrew AT lists.ibiblio.org>
- Subject: Re: [b-hebrew] Piel etc.
- Date: Wed, 11 May 2005 11:19:57 -0700
On 5/11/05 8:32 AM, "Dr. Joel M. Hoffman" <joel AT exc.com> wrote:
> It is simply not true that the binyanim dictate semantic sense. So to
> say that "Piel [is] a heightened action of some kind," or that "Piel
> [is] the imposition of a state (adjectival)..." is to do everyone a
> disservice.
>
> In both modern and ancient Hebrew, each binyan tends to cluster around
> a set of meanings, but the clustering is not absolute. Some people
> therefore conclude that there are "rules and lots of exceptions," but
> I don't find that approach helpful or accurate, both because the rules
> tend to be complicated, and because the exceptions outnumber the
> non-exceptions.
Yes yes, and while your at it could you please post something for the Greek
students/scholars along the same lines. This is what I have been harping on
for eons while getting nothing but abuse from the advocates of traditional
grammar.
> Furthermore, the belief in semantic rules that accompany the binyanim
> leads to (sometimes severe) misunderstandings of the Hebrew words,
> because people try to force their wrong notions of the semantic import
> of the binyanim onto the words.
Again yes.
Clay Bartholomew
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[b-hebrew] Piel etc.,
Dr. Joel M. Hoffman, 05/11/2005
- Re: [b-hebrew] Piel etc., C. Stirling Bartholomew, 05/11/2005
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Re: [b-hebrew] Piel etc.,
Vadim Cherny, 05/12/2005
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Re: [b-hebrew] Piel etc.,
Dr. Joel M. Hoffman, 05/12/2005
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Re: [b-hebrew] Piel etc.,
Vadim Cherny, 05/13/2005
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Re: [b-hebrew] Piel etc.,
Peter Kirk, 05/13/2005
- Re: [b-hebrew] Piel etc., Vadim Cherny, 05/13/2005
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Re: [b-hebrew] Piel etc.,
Peter Kirk, 05/13/2005
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Re: [b-hebrew] Piel etc.,
Vadim Cherny, 05/13/2005
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Re: [b-hebrew] Piel etc.,
Dr. Joel M. Hoffman, 05/12/2005
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Re: [b-hebrew] Piel etc.,
George Athas, 05/13/2005
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Re: [b-hebrew] Piel etc.,
Uri Hurwitz, 05/13/2005
- Re: [b-hebrew] Piel etc., Yitzhak Sapir, 05/13/2005
- Re: [b-hebrew] Piel etc., C. Stirling Bartholomew, 05/13/2005
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Re: [b-hebrew] Piel etc.,
Uri Hurwitz, 05/13/2005
- <Possible follow-up(s)>
- Re: [b-hebrew] Piel etc., R . Lehmann, 05/11/2005
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