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- From: "Vadim Cherny" <VadimCherny AT mail.ru>
- To: "Dr. Joel M. Hoffman" <joel AT exc.com>, <b-hebrew AT lists.ibiblio.org>
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- Subject: Re: [b-hebrew] Piel etc.
- Date: Thu, 12 May 2005 09:20:46 +0300
> For example, in Modern Hebrew, the Piel GIDDEL means "to grow (plants)
> or to raise (children)," while the hiphil HIGDIL means "to enlarge."
> Similarly, the hiphil HIRXIK means "to cause to be far away," while
> its opposite, "to cause to be nearby," is Piel (KEREV).
>
> There is nothing emphatic about the nearly-passive verb "to get," but
> it, too, is Piel: KIBEL.
>
> Branching out a bit, the Niphal verbs NISHBA' ("to swear") and NAMAS
> ("to melt") are not at all passive, and neither are the modern Hebrew
> Niphal verbs NIZKAR ("to recall") and NIFTAR ("to die").
These correlations might or might not be true, but the reasoning is flawed.
You are reading modern English meaning into ancient Hebrew verbs. We just
don't know how they imagined a particular action. We lost semantic shades of
many synonyms, and more so of inflexions.
kibel, for example, could well be thought more emphatic than paal form.
nizkar could well be "to receive recollection"
giddel might reflect the burdensomeness of raising
Vadim Cherny
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[b-hebrew] Piel etc.,
Dr. Joel M. Hoffman, 05/11/2005
- Re: [b-hebrew] Piel etc., C. Stirling Bartholomew, 05/11/2005
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Re: [b-hebrew] Piel etc.,
Vadim Cherny, 05/12/2005
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Re: [b-hebrew] Piel etc.,
Dr. Joel M. Hoffman, 05/12/2005
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Re: [b-hebrew] Piel etc.,
Vadim Cherny, 05/13/2005
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Re: [b-hebrew] Piel etc.,
Peter Kirk, 05/13/2005
- Re: [b-hebrew] Piel etc., Vadim Cherny, 05/13/2005
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Re: [b-hebrew] Piel etc.,
Peter Kirk, 05/13/2005
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Re: [b-hebrew] Piel etc.,
Vadim Cherny, 05/13/2005
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Re: [b-hebrew] Piel etc.,
Dr. Joel M. Hoffman, 05/12/2005
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Re: [b-hebrew] Piel etc.,
George Athas, 05/13/2005
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Re: [b-hebrew] Piel etc.,
Uri Hurwitz, 05/13/2005
- Re: [b-hebrew] Piel etc., Yitzhak Sapir, 05/13/2005
- Re: [b-hebrew] Piel etc., C. Stirling Bartholomew, 05/13/2005
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Re: [b-hebrew] Piel etc.,
Uri Hurwitz, 05/13/2005
- <Possible follow-up(s)>
- Re: [b-hebrew] Piel etc., R . Lehmann, 05/11/2005
- Re: [b-hebrew] Piel etc., Karl Randolph, 05/11/2005
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