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  • From: Myshalom777 AT aol.com
  • To: gfsomsel AT juno.com, evi7538 AT yahoo.com
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  • Subject: Re: [b-hebrew] Almah vs. Bethulah in Isaiah 7
  • Date: Sat, 2 Apr 2005 10:17:11 EST


In a message dated 02/04/2005 16:05:34 GMT Daylight Time, gfsomsel AT juno.com
writes:

Let me turn the tables on you a bit. This birth is said to be a sign to
Ahaz. A sign would need to be something which the one to whom it is
given would witness. If it is regarding the birth of Jesus Christ, an
event several hundred years later, how then is it a sign to Ahaz since he
will never witness it? Also, if it is regarding a nearer event as well
as a more remote event (i.e. that there was some kind of fulfilment in
the time it was originally given, and if it refers to a virgin birth, are
there then two virgin births in scripture?

george
gfsomsel


It seems to me Mark Eddy gave a very good response to your point almost a
year ago when this topic came up on this list. Here it is again :

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Subj:Re: [b-hebrew] Isaiah 7:13 ha-alma and xarah
Date:12/05/2004 18:23:34 GMT Daylight Time
From:markeddy AT adams.net
To:b-hebrew AT lists.ibiblio.org
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Isaiah does not say that the sign is "for Ahas." Ahaz refused to ask for a
sign.(v. 12). So instead of giving a sign of Ahaz's choosing, the Lord will
give a sign to the "house of David" (v. 13). In verse 11
Isaiah addressed Ahaz with the singular Sha(aL LKa ("Listen, you!") but in
verse 13 Isaiah switches to referring to the "house of David" in the plural
(MiKKeM, and the verb TaL(U, also LaKem in verse 14). Ahaz
is just the most recent part of the house of David, which has tried God's
patience for a long time. The sign is for the whole house of David, not
primarily for the king in that house at that particular time.

Mark Eddy
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