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  • From: George F Somsel <gfsomsel AT juno.com>
  • To: jwest AT highland.net
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  • Subject: Re: [b-hebrew] Mozilla Thunderbird mail software
  • Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2005 12:38:10 -0500

On Sat, 15 Jan 2005 12:22:42 -0500 Jim West <jwest AT highland.net> writes:


George F Somsel wrote:
I do have SPEzra, but I still need to copy what appears and re-format it
to get it to appear in Hebrew characters (without vowels) as ??????.
Part of the problem -- indeed, I think most of the problem -- lies in the
fact that SPEzra is NOT a unicode font but one of the legacy fonts.

george
I get the text in Hebrew characters from you George.
Can you kindly explain to me how one goes about installing unicode so
that one can read unicode hebrew and greek? My web browser has both
built in (along with 2 gazillion others).

Is unicode only meant to be read on the web? And if so, what does one do
when one wishes to post something from a word document on a web page?

Jim


If you have Arial Unicode MS installed in your C:\Windows\Fonts
directory, it will handle both Greek and Hebrew. If you then set your
default font in IE to Arial Unicode MS, it should display properly. For
really good Hebrew characters I recommend the SBLHebrew font from
www.sbl-site.org.

If you don't have Arial Unicode MS, I would recommend that you download
the Titus Cyberbit Basic font (google it) and set it as your default
font. Arial Unicode MS used to be freely downloadable, but is no longer.
It is now available with Microsoft Publisher.

george
gfsomsel
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On Sat, 15 Jan 2005 18:33:02 +0100 Gerrit <g.de.blaauw2 AT chello.nl>
writes:
> Jim West wrote:
>
> > I'm not sure if you can see it or not- but in the sample I
> received
> > the letters are separated by the vowels- a full space being
> devoted to
> > each.
>
> I can see them properly. For the Hebrew to be displayed correctly on
> a
> Windows computer:
> - Your operating system should support Unicode (so it should be
> Windows
> 2000 or XP).
> - In Mozilla Thunderbird, in the Fonts settings (Tools, Options,
> Fonts),
> select Unicode (UTF-8) as encoding scheme for both Incoming and
> Outgoing
> mail.
> - In Mozilla Thunderbird, in the Fonts settings, specify your fonts
> for
> Hebrew; select fonts *above* the line, preferably Ezra SIL or SBL
> Hebrew
> (but all fonts above the line will probably do). E.g.:
> Fonts for: Hebrew
> Proportional: Serif
> Serif: Ezra SIL
> Sans-serif: Ezra SIL
> Monospace: Ezra SIL
>
> This is what I wrote earlier today, but somehow it didn't make it to
> the
> list:
>
> My hunch is that additional transliteration will always be
> necessary,
> not only because of the many operating systems in use today (some of
>
> which cannot handle Hebrew fonts), but also because the online
> archives
> should be readable for anyone (what a pity, by the way, that the
> b-hebrew archives are no longer searchable!).
>
> No one so far has brought up the subject of how to *write* Hebrew
> characters and vowels on a computer. Well, I didn't know how to, and
>
> I'll share what I found with those who are interested, for what it's
> worth.
> For those who have an operating system that supports Unicode, the
> easiest way to write Hebrew would be (I think) to install the
> Biblical
> Hebrew (SIL) keyboard. "The SIL Biblical Hebrew keyboard tries as
> far as
> possible to match the positioning of Hebrew letters to English
> phonetic
> cognates, e.g. ? =Q, ? =Y. This intuitive layout is only partial,
> due to
> dissimilarity between Hebrew and English graphemes, and some
> assignments
> are arbitrary, e.g. ? =F. Note that vocalisation and cantillation
> marks
> are distributed across all four states of this keyboard, and that
> some
> characters can be input in more than one way." (from
> BiblicalHebrew(SIL)Manual.pdf, which comes with the Ezra SIL Hebrew
> Unicode Fonts package and describes very clearly how to install the
> BH
> keyboard). (To use cantillation, you'll need MS Office (or at least
> Arial Unicode MS)).
>
>
http://scripts.sil.org/cms/scripts/page.php?site_id=nrsi&id=EzraSIL_Home&;
_sc=1
>
> ???????,
> Gerrit
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If you don't mind spending some money for the capability, go to
www.unitype.com. I've used it for years and find it to be an excellent
program.

george
gfsomsel
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