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- From: Peter Kirk <peterkirk AT qaya.org>
- To: Uri Hurwitz <uhurwitz AT yahoo.com>
- Cc: b-hebrew AT lists.ibiblio.org, Vadim Cherny <vadim_lv AT center-tv.net>
- Subject: Re: [b-hebrew] Isaiah 53:8 lamo
- Date: Tue, 21 Dec 2004 12:04:38 +0000
On 21/12/2004 01:05, Uri Hurwitz wrote:
Again, this proves my point. The semantics of the ShLM root in Hebrew are very varied because of semantic shift. Words from this root can mean "completion", "peace", "greeting" and a kind of sacrifice (and that's just a start). It is a serious mistake to try to force these different senses of different words into one meaning. Older translations tried this by calling this sacrifice a "peace offering", but scholars have realised that this is a misunderstanding, and so this translation has now been abandoned.
*/Peter Kirk <peterkirk AT qaya.org>/* wrote:
On 20/12/2004 16:53, Uri Hurwitz wrote:
>
> ..."... In both languages the original meaning was probably
> "completeleness, fullness"; (again you'll find examples in both
> languages)."
To which Peter responded:
>
Again this proves my point: the etymological or "original" meaning is
not a good guide to current meaning.
UH: Not in the MT where you'll find many examples of the
original meaning of ShLM "completion" both in verbs, e.g. 1
Kings 7:51 -- watishlam kol hamelakha , or nouns e.g. "shelamim" a
type of sacrifice.
Uri
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Re: [b-hebrew] Isaiah 53:8 lamo
, (continued)
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Re: [b-hebrew] Isaiah 53:8 lamo,
Peter Kirk, 12/20/2004
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Re: [b-hebrew] Isaiah 53:8 lamo,
Vadim Cherny, 12/20/2004
- Re: [b-hebrew] Isaiah 53:8 lamo, Peter Kirk, 12/20/2004
- Re: [b-hebrew] Isaiah 53:8 lamo, Vadim Cherny, 12/20/2004
- Re: [b-hebrew] Isaiah 53:8 lamo, Peter Kirk, 12/20/2004
- Re: [b-hebrew] Isaiah 53:8 lamo, Vadim Cherny, 12/20/2004
- Re: [b-hebrew] Isaiah 53:8 lamo, Peter Kirk, 12/20/2004
- Re: [b-hebrew] Isaiah 53:8 lamo, Uri Hurwitz, 12/20/2004
- Re: [b-hebrew] Isaiah 53:8 lamo, Peter Kirk, 12/20/2004
- Re: [b-hebrew] Isaiah 53:8 lamo, Uri Hurwitz, 12/20/2004
- Re: [b-hebrew] Isaiah 53:8 lamo, Peter Kirk, 12/21/2004
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Re: [b-hebrew] Isaiah 53:8 lamo,
Vadim Cherny, 12/20/2004
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Re: [b-hebrew] Isaiah 53:8 lamo,
Peter Kirk, 12/20/2004
- Re: [b-hebrew] Isaiah 53:8 lamo, Peter Kirk, 12/21/2004
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