Biblical Hebrew Forum

["Karl Randolph" <kwrandolph AT email.com>]

Peter:

When I studied in college, there was one time that I had two different books, 
one printed in 1965, the other in 1967. However the 1967 book was a reprint 
of a book from 1902, printed from the same plates as the original printing. 
So which was the older book?

Harstad et al claim that the Byzantine tradition represents an older 
tradition than Sinaiticus, Vaticanus and others of the "Coptic" tradition. 
They say that accident of preservation does not necessarily mean older 
tradition.

Of interest to the B-Hebrew subject, the Byzantine tradition preserves more 
hard consonants than the Nestlé text, e.g. Nazaret instead of Nazareth, 
Matthaion instead of Maththaion, Kaparnaum instead of Kafarnaum (modern 
Kfarnahum) (e.g. Matt. 4:13). However most hard consonants had turned to soft 
(t -> th, p -> f, etc.) by that time, even in the Byzantine tradition.

So which is older, the Coptic tradition as in Nestlé, or the Byzantine 
tradition that preserves what are apparently a few older traditions 
concerning Hebrew pronunciation?

Karl W. Randolph.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Peter Kirk" <peterkirk AT qaya.org>

> 
> On 17/11/2004 19:49, Karl Randolph wrote:
> 
> >...
> >
> >As for evidence of pronunciation shift, I noticed that the Byzantine 
> >tradition of texts of the New Testament preserved some indications in the 
> >transliterations of names that a shift in pronunciation had occured and 
> >come almost to completion. By the time of the texts that Nestlé is based 
> >on, that pronunciation shift was finished and those NT texts were cleaned 
> >up to reflect that.
> >  
> >
> 
> Hold on a minute. The Byzantine MSS are *LATER* than "the texts that 
> Nestlé is based on", and so if reason for the differences is a 
> pronunciation shift, this shift is from the "Nestlé" pronunciation to 
> the Byzantine one. The shift must also be dated after the 4th century CE 
> and so outside the time period we are discussing.
> 
> 
> -- 
> Peter Kirk
> peter AT qaya.org (personal)
> peterkirk AT qaya.org (work)
> http://www.qaya.org/
> 
> 
> 

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