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  • From: Dave Washburn <dwashbur AT nyx.net>
  • To: b-hebrew AT lists.ibiblio.org
  • Subject: Re: [b-hebrew] Pronoun )nky in Judg. 6:8
  • Date: Wed, 6 Oct 2004 12:13:20 -0600

On Wednesday 06 October 2004 10:58, MarianneLuban AT aol.com wrote:
> In a message dated 10/6/2004 9:39:41 AM Pacific Daylight Time,
>
> hholmyard AT ont.com writes:
> > >I don't know how much relevancy can be attributed--but "ink" is a
> > > personal pronoun in Egyptian. It means "I am" and is only seen at the
> > > start of a clause.
> >
> > HH: In Hebrew )NKY does not have to be the first word of a clause.
> > See Genesis 3:10 and 4:9.
>
> One doesn't count preliminary qualifiers as "And he said", does one? Isn't
> the statement of the person a clause in itself? Well, my rules of grammar
> may be rusty, but in Egyptian, this independent pronoun would certainly
> also be followed by a qualifier like "Dd.n=f" or "he said" (in the case of
> a male) . The pronoun was first written as "nwki" and then later as "ink",
> "nwk" and "inwk". Sir Alan Gardiner wrote: "This series (of independent
> pronouns) is closely connected with the personal pronouns in Hebrew and
> Arabic."

Marianne,
I agree with you that "and he said" etc. is a separate clause, not part of
the
direct speech being cited. But the two examples Harold gave don't fall into
this category; in both instances, they are the second word in a standard
verbless clause. Thus Gen 3:10 reads KY (YRM )NKY "because I am/was naked"
and Gen 4:9 reads H$MR )XY )NKI "am I my brother's keeper?"

Having said that, it could be that there are different "rules" for the
pronoun
depending on whether it's in a verbless clause such as these, or in a clause
with an explicit verbal element as in Judg 6:8.

--
Dave Washburn
http://www.nyx.net/~dwashbur
"No good. Hit on head." -Gronk




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