Biblical Hebrew Forum

["Harold R. Holmyard III" <hholmyard AT ont.com>]

Dear Sujata,

The phrase that Karl breaks into "God 
(supernatural), Hero (human)" appears again in 
Isaiah 10:21, where it's translated "mighty God." 
Also there is a Masoretic conjunctive accent 
joining the two words. The phrase "prince of 
fulness" is more probably "prince of peace." The 
word for "peace" often carries this meaning in 
contexts of rulers of nations, the immediate 
context favors it, and the word is used with that 
meaning at the beginning of the next verse. The 
accents do favor the separation of "wonder" and 
"counselor," the way Karl has done, even though 
most translations seem to join the words together 
with something like "Wonderful Counselor." The 
phrase Karl translates as "Father of Time" 
(Abi-ad) is interestingly one word in the BHS 
edition of the Hebrew text, though the lexicons I 
have do not handle it that way. They divide it 
into )BY ("father") and (D ("time, eternity").

                                Yours,
                                Harold Holmyard


> Dear Karl,
> Thank you so much for this beautiful translation.
> Could you please tell me the hebrew phrase that you
> translated to "Father of Time "


>  > A literal translation of each noun has: miracle,
> >  counsellor, God, hero (or mighty one), father, eon,
> >  prince, fullness (often translated as ìpeaceî).
> >
> >  I read this as two intersperced groups of three
> >  attributes: Miracle (supernatural), Counsellor
> >  (human), God (supernatural), Hero (human), Father of
>  > Time (supernatural), Prince of Fullness (human).
> >
>  > Karl W. Randolph.


>  > > For a child is born unto us, a son is given unto
>  > us;
> >  > and the government is upon his shoulder; and his
> >  name
> >  > is called Pele-joez-el-gibbor-Abi-ad-sar-shalom
> >  >
> >  > What is the literal translation of
>  > > Pele-joez-el-gibbor-Abi-ad-sar-shalom
>  > >
> >  > Thanks for the help.
> >  >
> >  > Best wishes,
>  > > Sujata