Biblical Hebrew Forum

["al cantley" <alcantley AT cebridge.net>]

 Below is a message I saved some years ago from another forum - could the
interpretation be correct?

"You mentioned the verse in Isaiah (namely Is. 9:6) where the pastor was
asking about all the various "names" of God.  I have the greatest Bible!!!!
It's called The Holy Name Bible by the Scripture Research (now out of print, I
believe) but let me quote the text for you here.  A small grammatical word
left out can make a big difference.
"For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall
be upon His shoulder: and His name shall be called Wonderful, Counselor, of
the Mighty El, of the Father of Eternity; The Prince of Peace."
Read that again and see what a difference it makes that the Son is a counselor
OF the Mighty El.  He is also the wonderful counselor OF the Father of
Eternity (He is NOT the Father).  He is The Prince of Peace. HalleluYAH !!! "
Blessings,  Kathy {MSDA 11/2/99}

Blessings,
Al Cantley

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Date: Tue, 14 Sep 2004 06:31:18 -0500
From: "Harold R. Holmyard III" <hholmyard AT ont.com>
Subject: Re: [b-hebrew] Isaiah 9:6
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Dear Sujata,

The phrase that Karl breaks into "God 
(supernatural), Hero (human)" appears again in 
Isaiah 10:21, where it's translated "mighty God." 
Also there is a Masoretic conjunctive accent 
joining the two words. The phrase "prince of 
fulness" is more probably "prince of peace." The 
word for "peace" often carries this meaning in 
contexts of rulers of nations, the immediate 
context favors it, and the word is used with that 
meaning at the beginning of the next verse. The 
accents do favor the separation of "wonder" and 
"counselor," the way Karl has done, even though 
most translations seem to join the words together 
with something like "Wonderful Counselor." The 
phrase Karl translates as "Father of Time" 
(Abi-ad) is interestingly one word in the BHS 
edition of the Hebrew text, though the lexicons I 
have do not handle it that way. They divide it 
into )BY ("father") and (D ("time, eternity").

                                Yours,
                                Harold Holmyard