Biblical Hebrew Forum

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It is not a "cop-out" for a Jewish translation, whose target audience is 
assumed to know some Hebrew, to transliterate the Hebrew titles (if they are 
titles) found at Isaiah 9:6.  The New JPS translation, called Tanakh, 
renders: "He 
has been named 'The Mighty God is planning grace; The Eternal Father, a 
peaceable ruler."  

Some other Jewish translations (e.g., Artscroll/Mesorah) read similarly, and 
a "literal translation" of the words is open to more than one style of 
rendition.  The first translators of the Hebrew expression who produced the 
LXX, if 
reading the same MT, somehow came up with "and his name is called the 
Messenger 
of great counsel; for I will bring peace upon the princes, and health to 
him." (Brenton's translation)

Solomon Landers

In a message dated 09/04/2004 9:24:27 PM Pacific Daylight Time, 
dwashbur AT nyx.net writes:

> What is the literal translation of
> >Pele-joez-el-gibbor-Abi-ad-sar-shalom
> 
> In this case, I think the literal translation is "cop-out."  The rendering 
> of 
> the old KJV and other English translations is quite literal: wonderful 
> counselor, mighty God, eternal father, prince of peace.  Who knows why the 
> JPS decided just to transliterate the Hebrew...
>