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  • From: Banyai AT t-online.de (Michael Banyai)
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  • Subject: [b-hebrew] Timing of Thera volcano
  • Date: 24 Aug 2004 18:16 GMT

I can not subscribe to the words of Dora Smith.

The data from Greenland ice-cores, or C14 isotopes, are quite consistently
stretching between 1650 and 1598 BC. A number of younger dates, which came to
be known first, are probably due to posteruptional vegetal growth, not dating
the eruption itself.

The best presentation of the material is to be found in Sturt Manning´s book
"A test of time: The Absolute Chronology of the Aegean Early Bronze Age", his
website is for the momemt offline. Manning is an expert in Aegean prehistory
and maintains that Theran LMIA is not contemporary with Egyptian 18-th
Dynasty but largely predates it. It is rather covering the 2nd intermediate
period in Egypt, thus MBIIB.

The number of the publications goes into the plaetora:

New data about climatically-effective volcanic eruptions during the past
several thousand years may be contained in frost-damage zones in the annual
rings of [pine] trees. There is good agreement in the timing of frost events
and recent eruptions, and the damage can be plausibly linked to climatic
effects of stratospheric aerosol veils on hemispheric and global scales. The
cataclysmic proto-historic eruption of Santorini (Thera), in the Aegean, is
tentatively dated to 1628-26 BC from frost-ring evidence."
- V.C. LaMarche, Jr. and K.K. Hirschboeck, 1984. "Frost rings in trees as
records of major volcanic eruptions", Nature, v. 307, 121-126.
- Stanley and Cheng have published the discovery of Theran ashes in the Delta
C14 datable into the same time frame
- Ice core rigs attributed by Prof. C. Hammer to the Theran eruption 1628
have been shortly reattributed to the eruption of the Alaskan volcano
Anakciak by N.Pearce. This means however nothing for the date of the Theran
eruption, since no ice core rigs can be attributed to this eruption at a
later time point either. But even here we could hear a retort from other
scientists.

Thus uit not worth to speak - at the moment - about an 18-th dynasty date of
the eruption.

Best regards,

Banyai Michael
Stuttgart
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It would appear this name was not just a feminine one:


Ex 1:15And the king of Egypt spake (8799) to the Hebrew midwives (8764) , of
which the name of the one was Shiphrah, and the name of the other Puah:

kai eipen o basileuv twn Aiguptiwn taiv maiaiv twn Ebraiwn th mia autwn h
onoma Sepfwra kai to onoma thv deuterav Foua

Jud 10:1And after Abimelech there arose (8799) to defend (8687) Israel Tola
the son of Puah, the son of Dodo, a man of Issachar; and he dwelt (8802) in
Shamir in mount Ephraim.

kai anesth meta Abimelex tou swsai ton Israhl Qwla uiov Foua uiov
patradelfou autou anhr Issaxar kai autov katwkei en Samareia en orei Efraim

1Ch 7:1Now the sons of Issachar were, Tola, and Puah, Jashub, and Shimron,
four.

kai toiv uioiv Issaxar Qwla kai Foua kai Iasoub kai Semerwn tessarev

Then the Coptic Bible:

1:15 ouoh peje pouro nte niremn,/mi nnirefymecio nte nihebreoc vran noui
mmwou pe cepvwra ouoh vran n]mah?b²?] pe voua
























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