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Re: [b-hebrew] Relevance Theory & Hebrew Semantics
- From: Peter Kirk <peterkirk AT qaya.org>
- To: "C. Stirling Bartholomew" <jacksonpollock AT earthlink.net>
- Cc: b-hebrew AT lists.ibiblio.org
- Subject: Re: [b-hebrew] Relevance Theory & Hebrew Semantics
- Date: Wed, 18 Aug 2004 14:08:30 +0100
On 18/08/2004 02:51, C. Stirling Bartholomew wrote:
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When I talk about a break down in semantic cohesion I am referring to a
situation where the **lexical** semantic values assigned to the low level
constituents in a discourse segment do not work together coherently. The
text analyst is tempted in a situation like this to look at alternatives to
these assignments in order to resolve the problem and in some cases we end
up with a forced fit; a reading where dubious semantic values are used with
less than adequate justification because the analyst is compelled to find a
semanticly cohesive text.
I see this happening all the time.
And surely this is a perfectly correct method. If we assume that a discourse unit is intended to make sense (i.e. it is not a random collection of words, or the result of textual corruption, or a deliberately constructed example of your "Highly cohesive discourse segments which didn't make any sense at all"), we must assume that words which have ranges of meaning, multiple senses etc are used with senses that fit the context in the discourse, even if these are in fact very rare senses of those words. I accept that some interpreters do give forced interpretations, perhaps because in fact there is textual corruption etc, or because they are unaware of (or for other reasons unwilling to accept) alternative interpretations which do make sense in the context. And in a language like Hebrew many common words may have rare senses of which we now have no clear surviving evidence, and as a result we are left guessing in some passages. But, let me repeat, just because we cannot now reconstruct the semantic cohesion of some passages, that doesn't mean there wasn't any.
Discourse cohesion is something that can be attained somewhat independent of
semantic content. You can have a cohesive discourse segment as defined by
Halliday and Hasan which has no coherent meaning. ...
Yes, such nonsense texts can be constructed. But I would have severe problems with any hypothesis that the Hebrew Bible contains (except perhaps very rarely e.g. Isaiah 28:10,13) deliberately nonsensical passages.
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Peter Kirk
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Re: [b-hebrew] Relevance Theory & Hebrew Semantics
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Re: [b-hebrew] Relevance Theory & Hebrew Semantics,
MarianneLuban, 08/16/2004
- Re: [b-hebrew] Relevance Theory & Hebrew Semantics, Peter Kirk, 08/16/2004
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Re: [b-hebrew] Relevance Theory & Hebrew Semantics,
George F. Somsel, 08/16/2004
- Re: [b-hebrew] Relevance Theory & Hebrew Semantics, Peter Kirk, 08/17/2004
- Re: [b-hebrew] Relevance Theory & Hebrew Semantics, MarianneLuban, 08/17/2004
- Re: [b-hebrew] Relevance Theory & Hebrew Semantics, kwrandolph, 08/17/2004
- Re: [b-hebrew] Relevance Theory & Hebrew Semantics, kwrandolph, 08/17/2004
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Re: [b-hebrew] Relevance Theory & Hebrew Semantics,
Eduard C Hanganu, 08/17/2004
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Re: [b-hebrew] Relevance Theory & Hebrew Semantics,
C. Stirling Bartholomew, 08/17/2004
- Re: [b-hebrew] Relevance Theory & Hebrew Semantics, C. Stirling Bartholomew, 08/17/2004
- Re: [b-hebrew] Relevance Theory & Hebrew Semantics, Peter Kirk, 08/18/2004
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Re: [b-hebrew] Relevance Theory & Hebrew Semantics,
C. Stirling Bartholomew, 08/17/2004
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Re: [b-hebrew] Relevance Theory & Hebrew Semantics,
Eduard C Hanganu, 08/18/2004
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Re: [b-hebrew] Relevance Theory & Hebrew Semantics,
Peter Kirk, 08/19/2004
- Re: [b-hebrew] Relevance Theory & Hebrew Semantics, Yigal Levin, 08/20/2004
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Re: [b-hebrew] Relevance Theory & Hebrew Semantics,
Peter Kirk, 08/19/2004
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Re: [b-hebrew] Relevance Theory & Hebrew Semantics,
Eduard C Hanganu, 08/19/2004
- Re: [b-hebrew] Relevance Theory & Hebrew Semantics, Peter Kirk, 08/20/2004
- Re: [b-hebrew] Relevance Theory & Hebrew Semantics, Karl Randolph, 08/20/2004
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Re: [b-hebrew] Relevance Theory & Hebrew Semantics,
MarianneLuban, 08/16/2004
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