Biblical Hebrew Forum

["Harold R. Holmyard III" <hholmyard AT ont.com>]

Dear Uri,

What would some say may not have been so? Are 
they saying that Deuteronomy was not written at 
one time and place? The Book of Deuteronomy says 
that it was.

Deut. 31:9 ¶ So Moses wrote down this law and 
gave it to the priests, the sons of Levi, who 
carried the ark of the covenant of the LORD, and 
to all the elders of Israel.

Are they saying that the other literature, much 
of Joshua-Kings, was not written later? Scripture 
is clear that the events occurred later than the 
writing of the Deuteronomic law by Moses. So they 
must have been written later. Are they saying 
that these other books do not echo the language 
and themes of Deuteronomy. This is a matter of 
judgment to some degree, but certainly a good 
argument can be made for the fact that they do. 
For example, Moses warned about rebellion from 
God and God's punishment, and that is exactly 
what Judges shows.

                                Yours,
                                Harold Holmyard

>   This may have been so, but, some would say, 
> more likely not have been so. In short, sheer 
> speculation, like much that has been speculated 
> on this subject.
>
>   Uri
> Peter Kirk <peterkirk AT qaya.org> wrote:
> the kind of model I have in mind is:
>
> 1) Deuteronomy was written at one time and place.
>
> 2) The other literature e.g. much of Joshua-Kings which so clearly
> echoes the languages and themes of Deuteronomy was written at a later
> time, and potentially a different place, in imitation, either deliberate
> or accidental, of Deuteronomy.
>
> Therefore, Michael's stylistic argument that Deuteronomy and
> Joshua-Kings were written at one time and place fails.
> From gfsomsel AT juno.com  Wed Jun  2 20:40:32 2004
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Harold,

At the risk of opening a can of worms, I think Peter and Uri were
referring to JEDP and the Documentary Hypothesis.  According to this
Deuteronomy was "found" in the temple and was the impetus for the
Josianic reforms.  It was, shall I say, an "occassional piece", i.e.
written for the occassion.  The histories were then written upon the
program of Deuteronomy with the centralized sanctuary, etc.

What some say may not have been so that Uri referenced is that not all
agree to the Documentary Hypothesis.

As regards your "the Bible tells me so" approach --

"Things are not always as they seem.
Skim milk oft masquerades as cream."

gfsomsel
________

On Wed, 2 Jun 2004 19:26:18 -0500 "Harold R. Holmyard III"
<hholmyard AT ont.com> writes:
> Dear Uri,
>
> What would some say may not have been so? Are
> they saying that Deuteronomy was not written at
> one time and place? The Book of Deuteronomy says
> that it was.
>
> Deut. 31:9 ¶ So Moses wrote down this law and
> gave it to the priests, the sons of Levi, who
> carried the ark of the covenant of the LORD, and
> to all the elders of Israel.
>
> Are they saying that the other literature, much
> of Joshua-Kings, was not written later? Scripture
> is clear that the events occurred later than the
> writing of the Deuteronomic law by Moses. So they
> must have been written later. Are they saying
> that these other books do not echo the language
> and themes of Deuteronomy. This is a matter of
> judgment to some degree, but certainly a good
> argument can be made for the fact that they do.
> For example, Moses warned about rebellion from
> God and God's punishment, and that is exactly
> what Judges shows.
>
>                                 Yours,
>                                 Harold Holmyard
>
> >   This may have been so, but, some would say,
> >more likely not have been so. In short, sheer
> >speculation, like much that has been speculated
> >on this subject.
> >
> >   Uri
> >Peter Kirk <peterkirk AT qaya.org> wrote:
> >the kind of model I have in mind is:
> >
> >1) Deuteronomy was written at one time and place.
> >
> >2) The other literature e.g. much of Joshua-Kings which so clearly
> >echoes the languages and themes of Deuteronomy was written at a
> later
> >time, and potentially a different place, in imitation, either
> deliberate
> >or accidental, of Deuteronomy.
> >
> >Therefore, Michael's stylistic argument that Deuteronomy and
> >Joshua-Kings were written at one time and place fails.
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