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- From: Peter Kirk <peterkirk AT qaya.org>
- To: Michael Banyai <Banyai AT t-online.de>
- Cc: b-hebrew AT lists.ibiblio.org
- Subject: Re: [b-hebrew] exodus, dating of linguistics
- Date: Wed, 02 Jun 2004 14:03:42 -0700
On 02/06/2004 13:01, Michael Banyai wrote:
Dear Peter Kirk,You misunderstand me. The illustrious model has not disappeared, it is other parts of the Bible. Certainly the details will be controversial, but the kind of model I have in mind is:
this sounds like a very nice logical argument:
I continue to reject this conclusion. Firstly, the premise is not true as there are differences in style and language. But even if it were true, there is nothing to stop skilled authors in later centuries and quite different places from deliberately mimicking the style of the earlier books. To show this, consider that a skilled writer in America could today produce texts which are stylistically identical to Shakespeare (I don't say with the same artistic merit), but that does not prove that they were written in 16th-17th century England.
But where is the equivalent for this than given in the case of biblical literature. If
it should be as you assume of a later date and copying some older prestigious models,
where are these models "Vorbilder" we know nothing of?
Since this kind of literature ought have existed at the time point of the creation of
that "later" biblical material, where has the illustrous model disappeared
and why?
All the best,
Bányai Michael
Stuttgart
1) Deuteronomy was written at one time and place.
2) The other literature e.g. much of Joshua-Kings which so clearly echoes the languages and themes of Deuteronomy was written at a later time, and potentially a different place, in imitation, either deliberate or accidental, of Deuteronomy.
Therefore, Michael's stylistic argument that Deuteronomy and Joshua-Kings were written at one time and place fails.
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Peter Kirk
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Re: [b-hebrew] exodus, dating of linguistics,
Peter Kirk, 06/02/2004
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Re: [b-hebrew] exodus, dating of linguistics,
Michael Banyai, 06/02/2004
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Re: [b-hebrew] exodus, dating of linguistics,
Peter Kirk, 06/02/2004
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Re: [b-hebrew] exodus, dating of linguistics,
Uri Hurwitz, 06/02/2004
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Re: [b-hebrew] exodus, dating of linguistics,
Harold R. Holmyard III, 06/02/2004
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Re: [b-hebrew] exodus, dating of linguistics,
Uri Hurwitz, 06/03/2004
- Re: [b-hebrew] exodus, dating of linguistics, Brian Roberts, 06/03/2004
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[b-hebrew] Pentateuch authorship inconsistencies - DH,
Patrina, 06/03/2004
- Re: [b-hebrew] Pentateuch authorship inconsistencies - DH, Harold R. Holmyard III, 06/03/2004
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Re: [b-hebrew] exodus, dating of linguistics,
Uri Hurwitz, 06/03/2004
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Re: [b-hebrew] exodus, dating of linguistics,
Peter Kirk, 06/03/2004
- Re: [b-hebrew] exodus, dating of linguistics, Brian Roberts, 06/03/2004
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Re: [b-hebrew] exodus, dating of linguistics,
Harold R. Holmyard III, 06/02/2004
- Re: [b-hebrew] exodus, dating of linguistics, Michael Banyai, 06/03/2004
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Re: [b-hebrew] exodus, dating of linguistics,
Uri Hurwitz, 06/02/2004
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Re: [b-hebrew] exodus, dating of linguistics,
Peter Kirk, 06/02/2004
- Re: [b-hebrew] exodus, dating of linguistics, Karl Randolph, 06/02/2004
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