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- From: Peter Kirk <peterkirk AT qaya.org>
- To: Jason Hare <jason AT hareplay.com>
- Cc: B-Hebrew <b-hebrew AT lists.ibiblio.org>
- Subject: Re: [b-hebrew] Hebrew transliteration
- Date: Mon, 19 Jan 2004 12:02:50 -0800
On 19/01/2004 11:45, Jason Hare wrote:
Peter,Thank you, Jason. I had not seen this rule so explicitly. You are probably right.
There does not have to be a dagesh in the first lamed because of the VOCAL
SH'VA underneath it. Remember that the letters $&CSQNMLWY do not /have/ to
carry a dagesh when they have a vocal sh'va under them (reference page 107
of Weingreen's grammar, note N.B. (1) at the top of the page: "The Dagesh
Forte which is characteristic in the 2nd root-letter is sometimes absent in
certain forms. The second example B.iQ."$ happens to be one of these verbs,
when the medial root-letter Q is vowelless, i.e. when it has a shewa: the
3rd pl. Perf. B.iQ.:$W. is found as B.iQ:$W. [with a rafe above the Q], the
doubling of the medial root-letter having been ommitted for euphony...."
...
But the question remains, is the remaining sheva silent or voiced? I always assumed that in forms like B.IQ:$W. the sheva was silent, and the dagesh was dropped to correspond to this lack of vocalisation. If it is voiced, how can I decide whether sheva is voiced or not in any word of this pattern? If it is silent, does that imply that the sheva in HAL:LW. is also silent, which would surely imply that the word is pronounced with just one long L sound?
--
Peter Kirk
peter AT qaya.org (personal)
peterkirk AT qaya.org (work)
http://www.qaya.org/
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RE: [b-hebrew] Hebrew transliteration
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- RE: [b-hebrew] Hebrew transliteration, Trevor Peterson, 01/19/2004
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RE: [b-hebrew] Hebrew transliteration,
Trevor Peterson, 01/19/2004
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Re: [b-hebrew] Hebrew transliteration,
Peter Kirk, 01/19/2004
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RE: [b-hebrew] Hebrew transliteration,
Trevor Peterson, 01/19/2004
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Re: [b-hebrew] Hebrew transliteration,
Peter Kirk, 01/19/2004
- RE: [b-hebrew] Hebrew transliteration, Trevor Peterson, 01/19/2004
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Re: [b-hebrew] Hebrew transliteration,
Jason Hare, 01/19/2004
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Re: [b-hebrew] Hebrew transliteration,
Peter Kirk, 01/19/2004
- Re: [b-hebrew] Hebrew transliteration, Jason Hare, 01/19/2004
- RE: [b-hebrew] Hebrew transliteration, Trevor Peterson, 01/19/2004
- Re: [b-hebrew] Hebrew transliteration, Peter Kirk, 01/19/2004
- RE: [b-hebrew] Hebrew transliteration, Trevor Peterson, 01/19/2004
- Re: [b-hebrew] Hebrew transliteration, Peter Kirk, 01/19/2004
- RE: [b-hebrew] Hebrew transliteration, Trevor Peterson, 01/19/2004
- Re: [b-hebrew] Hebrew transliteration, Peter Kirk, 01/19/2004
- Re: [b-hebrew] Hebrew transliteration, Jason Hare, 01/19/2004
- Re: [b-hebrew] Hebrew transliteration, Yigal Levin, 01/20/2004
- Re: [b-hebrew] Hebrew transliteration, Peter Kirk, 01/20/2004
- Re: [b-hebrew] Hebrew transliteration, Jason Hare, 01/20/2004
- Re: [b-hebrew] Hebrew transliteration, Peter Kirk, 01/20/2004
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Re: [b-hebrew] Hebrew transliteration,
Peter Kirk, 01/19/2004
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Re: [b-hebrew] Hebrew transliteration,
Peter Kirk, 01/19/2004
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RE: [b-hebrew] Hebrew transliteration,
Trevor Peterson, 01/19/2004
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Re: [b-hebrew] Hebrew transliteration,
Peter Kirk, 01/19/2004
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