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- From: Peter Kirk <peterkirk AT qaya.org>
- To: Trevor Peterson <06peterson AT cua.edu>
- Cc: 'Biblical Hebrew' <b-hebrew AT lists.ibiblio.org>
- Subject: Re: [b-hebrew] Hebrew transliteration
- Date: Mon, 19 Jan 2004 06:32:47 -0800
On 19/01/2004 06:04, Trevor Peterson wrote:
Peter wrote:Yes, you are probably right. The comparable situation you may have seen is the extra unpointed shin in Issachar.
And so for the Masoretic pronunciation perhaps we have some kind of perpetual Qere, with the pronunciation as if there is one lengthened lamed; so we would have unchanged Ketiv HLLW YH but Qere HAL.W. YAH.
This seems like a stretch to me. Wouldn't we expect rather to see no
nikkud on one or the other lamed? I seem to remember seeing this in
comparable situations, ...
...How about a dot above, U+0307? This has the advantage of fitting reasonably well with every upper case base consonant, as it can go beside the ascenders of b, d etc, and you don't need it on i or j, or f, where there might be a problem. See for example the reference glyphs in http://www.unicode.org/charts/PDF/U1E00.pdf, which has most of the combinations needed precomposed, even dots above s acute and s caron (1E65/1E67). The only remaining problem case is l (small L) with dot above; for this you could substitute l with middle dot, 0140.
I'm also not crazy about using boldface to indicate consonantal
lengthening. The problem is that I can't think of an attractive
alternative. I did consider using caps, but I hate to do that, both for
the ugly appearance and for the possible confusion with other systems
that use caps to indicate emphatic consonants (a system that I like,
BTW, for ASCII environments). If anyone has any suggestions, I'd
appreciate it. ...
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Peter Kirk
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Re: [b-hebrew] Hebrew transliteration
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Re: [b-hebrew] Hebrew transliteration,
Peter Kirk, 01/18/2004
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RE: [b-hebrew] Hebrew transliteration,
Trevor Peterson, 01/18/2004
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RE: [b-hebrew] Hebrew transliteration,
Rasmus Underbjerg Pinnerup, 01/19/2004
- RE: [b-hebrew] Hebrew transliteration, Trevor Peterson, 01/19/2004
- Re: [b-hebrew] Hebrew transliteration, Peter Kirk, 01/19/2004
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Re: [b-hebrew] Hebrew transliteration,
Peter Kirk, 01/19/2004
- RE: [b-hebrew] Hebrew transliteration, Trevor Peterson, 01/19/2004
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RE: [b-hebrew] Hebrew transliteration,
Rasmus Underbjerg Pinnerup, 01/19/2004
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RE: [b-hebrew] Hebrew transliteration,
Trevor Peterson, 01/19/2004
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Re: [b-hebrew] Hebrew transliteration,
Peter Kirk, 01/19/2004
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RE: [b-hebrew] Hebrew transliteration,
Trevor Peterson, 01/19/2004
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Re: [b-hebrew] Hebrew transliteration,
Peter Kirk, 01/19/2004
- RE: [b-hebrew] Hebrew transliteration, Trevor Peterson, 01/19/2004
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Re: [b-hebrew] Hebrew transliteration,
Jason Hare, 01/19/2004
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Re: [b-hebrew] Hebrew transliteration,
Peter Kirk, 01/19/2004
- Re: [b-hebrew] Hebrew transliteration, Jason Hare, 01/19/2004
- RE: [b-hebrew] Hebrew transliteration, Trevor Peterson, 01/19/2004
- Re: [b-hebrew] Hebrew transliteration, Peter Kirk, 01/19/2004
- RE: [b-hebrew] Hebrew transliteration, Trevor Peterson, 01/19/2004
- Re: [b-hebrew] Hebrew transliteration, Peter Kirk, 01/19/2004
- RE: [b-hebrew] Hebrew transliteration, Trevor Peterson, 01/19/2004
- Re: [b-hebrew] Hebrew transliteration, Peter Kirk, 01/19/2004
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Re: [b-hebrew] Hebrew transliteration,
Peter Kirk, 01/19/2004
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Re: [b-hebrew] Hebrew transliteration,
Peter Kirk, 01/19/2004
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RE: [b-hebrew] Hebrew transliteration,
Trevor Peterson, 01/19/2004
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Re: [b-hebrew] Hebrew transliteration,
Peter Kirk, 01/19/2004
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RE: [b-hebrew] Hebrew transliteration,
Trevor Peterson, 01/18/2004
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Re: [b-hebrew] Hebrew transliteration,
Peter Kirk, 01/18/2004
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