Biblical Hebrew Forum

[David P Donnelly <davedonnelly1 AT juno.com>]

Charles David Isbell says:

>>>
I am aware that some on this list need to believe fervently that the
sacred name of God 
is to be pronounced Jehovah.

 I have two responses. 
[1] Knock yourself out. 
You have my blessing to pronounce the name of your deity any way you
wish. 
[2] Kindly stop trying to speak for "the Jewish people." 
We have NEVER used that pronunciation, 
and it was not a Jew who made the childish error of reading Ktiv
consonants with Qere vowels. 
>>>

Dave says:

In my particulat situation, 
I am trying to understand the "it is written" form of God's Hebrew name,
as it is preserved in the Ben Chayyim Hebrew text.

I realize that  Masoretic texts disagree with other Masoretic texts,
but the Old Testament of the English Bible that I use, 
[e.g. the KJV]
is translated from the Ben Chayyim Hebrew text.

Yehovah 
[yod-shewa-he-holem-vav-qamets-he]
is a Hebrew form of God's name
that is preserved in both the Ben Chayyim Hebrew text,
and in the Leningrad Codex..

It appears to be a Hebrew form,
that is pronounceable.

It is pronounced "Yehovah" in Hebrew.

Thus to be redundant,
I am trying to understand the "it is written" form of God's Hebrew name,
[e.g. Yehovah] 
as it is preserved in the Ben Chayyim Hebrew text over 6000 times,
and as it is preserved in the Leningrad Codex 44 times.

I am aware that many sources do not believe that 
this  "it is written" form of God's Hebrew name,
[e.g. Yehovah]
was meant to be pronounced. 

Dave Donnelly
 


On Fri, 26 Sep 2003 08:58:00 -0500 "Charles David Isbell"
<cisbell AT cox.net> writes:
> David Donnelly wrote: "The Jewish people must have been aware that 
> the
> Rabbinic Bible of 1525, preserved God's name as "Yehovah"
> [yod-shewa-he-holem-vav-gamets-he] over 6000 times."
> 
> I am aware that some on this list need to believe fervently that the 
> sacred
> name of God is to be pronounced Jehovah. I have two responses. [1] 
> Knock
> yourself out. You have my blessing to pronounce the name of your 
> deity any
> way you wish.
> 
> [2] Kindly stop trying to speak for "the Jewish people." We have 
> NEVER used
> that pronunciation, and it was not a Jew who made the childish error 
> of
> reading Ktiv consonants with Qere vowels.
> 
> Charles David Isbell
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
>From lizfried AT umich.edu  Fri Sep 26 11:53:35 2003
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Subject: RE: [b-hebrew] Variants of YHWH in the BHS Text
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Dear David,
I'd go with yahoweh myself, or maybe yahuweh.
 Forget the vov, it's a wow.
Liz

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> Subject: Re: [b-hebrew] Variants of YHWH in the BHS Text
> 
> 
> Charles David Isbell says:
> 
> >>>
> I am aware that some on this list need to believe fervently that the
> sacred name of God 
> is to be pronounced Jehovah.
> 
>  I have two responses. 
> [1] Knock yourself out. 
> You have my blessing to pronounce the name of your deity any way you
> wish. 
> [2] Kindly stop trying to speak for "the Jewish people." 
> We have NEVER used that pronunciation, 
> and it was not a Jew who made the childish error of reading Ktiv
> consonants with Qere vowels. 
> >>>
> 
> Dave says:
> 
> In my particulat situation, 
> I am trying to understand the "it is written" form of God's Hebrew name,
> as it is preserved in the Ben Chayyim Hebrew text.
> 
> I realize that  Masoretic texts disagree with other Masoretic texts,
> but the Old Testament of the English Bible that I use, 
> [e.g. the KJV]
> is translated from the Ben Chayyim Hebrew text.
> 
> Yehovah 
> [yod-shewa-he-holem-vav-qamets-he]
> is a Hebrew form of God's name
> that is preserved in both the Ben Chayyim Hebrew text,
> and in the Leningrad Codex..
> 
> It appears to be a Hebrew form,
> that is pronounceable.
> 
> It is pronounced "Yehovah" in Hebrew.
> 
> Thus to be redundant,
> I am trying to understand the "it is written" form of God's Hebrew name,
> [e.g. Yehovah] 
> as it is preserved in the Ben Chayyim Hebrew text over 6000 times,
> and as it is preserved in the Leningrad Codex 44 times.
> 
> I am aware that many sources do not believe that 
> this  "it is written" form of God's Hebrew name,
> [e.g. Yehovah]
> was meant to be pronounced. 
> 
> Dave Donnelly
>  
> 
> 
> On Fri, 26 Sep 2003 08:58:00 -0500 "Charles David Isbell"
> <cisbell AT cox.net> writes:
> > David Donnelly wrote: "The Jewish people must have been aware that 
> > the
> > Rabbinic Bible of 1525, preserved God's name as "Yehovah"
> > [yod-shewa-he-holem-vav-gamets-he] over 6000 times."
> > 
> > I am aware that some on this list need to believe fervently that the 
> > sacred
> > name of God is to be pronounced Jehovah. I have two responses. [1] 
> > Knock
> > yourself out. You have my blessing to pronounce the name of your 
> > deity any
> > way you wish.
> > 
> > [2] Kindly stop trying to speak for "the Jewish people." We have 
> > NEVER used
> > that pronunciation, and it was not a Jew who made the childish error 
> > of
> > reading Ktiv consonants with Qere vowels.
> > 
> > Charles David Isbell
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
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