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- From: Andrew & Debby Kulikovsky <hermeneutics AT kulikovskyonline.net>
- To: b-hebrew AT franklin.oit.unc.edu
- Subject: Re: My understanding of Gen 1:1-3
- Date: Sun, 18 Aug 2002 18:01:33 +0200
On 08:16 PM 17/08/2002 -0400, Mike Sangrey wrote:
On Sat, 2002-08-17 at 17:18, Andrew & Debby Kulikovsky wrote:
<snip>
> This is not correct. There is no reason why you can't have time without light.
> I don't think you have understood Einstein - most people including many
> physicists don't!
I won't carry this discussion any further, but I'd rather the idea not
get dismissed with a simple "wave of the hand."
Perhaps I should have used the term `energy' instead of `light'.
Ok. That makes better sense.
With
only Mass and no Energy, you can't talk about the space-time continuum.
If you can't use space-time language (that is, you can't convey `tense'
using any linguistic feature), how do you describe the creation of
Mass? Well, you simply state it--just like Gen. 1:1 does. However, as
soon as you have Energy AND Mass in place, you can start using
space-time continuum language. You can start saying things like "that
which just happened was day one." You can't talk about a day zero thing
since the whole concept of `day' doesn't make any sense until you have
both Energy AND Mass in place.
I might add that the "evening and morning" language, used by the author
to stress a rather short time, can fit just fine when one assumes an
earth centric, gravitationally influenced, relativistic time. You've
got a really big ball of water; there would have to be gravitational
effects on time going on as the different pieces of the universe come
into existence through those first 6 days. It's really not that
difficult to postulate large variances in time between different places
of the universe as a result of the event horizon (or horizons)
shrinking. In short, the language of Gen. 1 is not scientifically
weird.
Funny you should mention this since physicist Russell Humphreys has proposed a cosmology exactly like this!
cheers,
Andrew
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Andrew & Debby Kulikovsky
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RE: My understanding of Gen 1:1-3
, (continued)
- RE: My understanding of Gen 1:1-3, Andrew & Debby Kulikovsky, 08/16/2002
- RE: My understanding of Gen 1:1-3, Andrew & Debby Kulikovsky, 08/16/2002
- Re: My understanding of Gen 1:1-3, Andrew & Debby Kulikovsky, 08/16/2002
- RE: My understanding of Gen 1:1-3, Dave Washburn, 08/17/2002
- RE: My understanding of Gen 1:1-3, Dave Washburn, 08/17/2002
- RE: My understanding of Gen 1:1-3, Peter Kirk, 08/17/2002
- Re: My understanding of Gen 1:1-3, Andrew & Debby Kulikovsky, 08/17/2002
- RE: My understanding of Gen 1:1-3, Andrew & Debby Kulikovsky, 08/17/2002
- RE: My understanding of Gen 1:1-3, Dave Washburn, 08/17/2002
- Re: My understanding of Gen 1:1-3, Mike Sangrey, 08/17/2002
- Re: My understanding of Gen 1:1-3, Andrew & Debby Kulikovsky, 08/18/2002
- Re: My understanding of Gen 1:1-3, Yigal Levin, 08/19/2002
- Re: My understanding of Gen 1:1-3, Mike Sangrey, 08/19/2002
- Re: My understanding of Gen 1:1-3, Yigal Levin, 08/20/2002
- Re: My understanding of Gen 1:1-3, Ian Goldsmith, 08/20/2002
- Re: My understanding of Gen 1:1-3, Ian Charles Hutchesson, 08/20/2002
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