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  • From: "Lee R. Martin" <lmartin AT vol.com>
  • To: "Dave Washburn" <dwashbur AT nyx.net>
  • Cc: "b-hebrew" <b-hebrew AT franklin.oit.unc.edu>
  • Subject: Re: WP
  • Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1999 17:12:35 -0500


Dave,
Yes, I understand what Rolf is saying. I agree with him and with you that
there is no "separate" weqatal. I never said there was. But weqatals are
*not* used like qatals without "we-". How do you explain that? That wasn't
my point. The 2 components of the finite verb system are 1) prefix
conjugation, 2) and suffix conjugation.
Lee R. Martin



Lee,
I believe Rolf was saying his statistics support my contention that
there is no separate weqatal. What are the 2 components that you
see? You may have mentioned them before, but apparently I
missed it if you did.

> Dear Rolf,
> Thanks for restating your view.
> As I wrote in response to Dave, I do not believe in a 4 component model; I
> accept only 2 components to the finite verb system of BH. And I am aware
of
> the statistics below. However, your statistics do not explain the
weqatal,
> its origin, or its function. Your post is a good example of what I said
> earlier. The weqatal has been described, but not explained.
> Lee R. Martin
>
> >Some statisticts: Looking at qatals with prefixed waw in 1st and 2nd
person
> >singular, I found 1637 examples in BHS. Of these, 1222 had ultimate
stress
> >(including 83 of the lamed aleph and lamed he groups), and 415 had
> >penultimate stress (including 278 of the lamed aleph and lamed he
groups).
> >Of the verbs with ultimate stress 1082 evidently have future meaning, and
> >of the verbs with penultimate stress 148 evidently have future meaning.
> >
> >The fact that 12 per cent of the weqatals with penultimate stress do not
> >have a future meaning and that 36 per cent of the weqatals with
penultimate
> >stress have future meaning accords with Dave's suggestions above.
>
>
>
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  • Re: WP , (continued)
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        • Re: WP, Paul Zellmer, 01/23/1999
          • Re: WP, Rolf Furuli, 01/23/1999
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          • Re: WP, Paul Zellmer, 01/23/1999
    • Re: WP, Lee R. Martin, 01/22/1999
      • Re: WP, Dave Washburn, 01/22/1999
    • Re: WP, Lee R. Martin, 01/22/1999
    • Re: WP, Dave Washburn, 01/22/1999
    • Re: WP, Bryan Rocine, 01/22/1999
    • Re: WP, Lee R. Martin, 01/22/1999
    • Re: WP, Dave Washburn, 01/22/1999
    • Re: WP, Lee R. Martin, 01/22/1999
    • Re: WP, Dave Washburn, 01/22/1999
    • Re: WP, Dave Washburn, 01/22/1999
    • Re: WP, Lee R. Martin, 01/23/1999
    • Re: WP, Lee R. Martin, 01/23/1999
      • Re: WP, Dave Washburn, 01/23/1999
    • Re: WP, Dave Washburn, 01/23/1999
    • Re[2]: WP, Peter_Kirk, 01/23/1999
    • Re: WP, Rolf Furuli, 01/23/1999
    • Re: WP, Rolf Furuli, 01/23/1999
    • Re[2]: WP, Peter_Kirk, 01/23/1999

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