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  • From: Paul Kosuth <prkosuth@ll.net>
  • To: john@eco-living.net, permaculture <permaculture@lists.ibiblio.org>
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  • Subject: Re: [permaculture] Bucky Fuller, interesting Usenet newsgroups
  • Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2003 20:37:26 -0500

I think that the means are available but the will to apply those means has been exercised. Can the will be exercised is another question. When the will exists to spend more than twice the federal gov amount on education for 6 months of invasion to make Iraq safe for Haliburton I think financial resources are available. There are both soft and hard technologies available to make the world a successful place for all peoples. Its not a monoloith of one technology but may technologies specific to area, people and culture. Maybe its a permaculture of industries and appropriate agriculture, I don't know. Maybe permaculture should grow to include an industrial component. Check out the World Game Institute at http://www.osearth.com/workshops/ this whole scenario is based upon making the world work for everyone.

Paul

John Schinnerer wrote:

Aloha,


I think that what Fuller was getting at was that we have the means for
all people to be successful to the detriment of none (thats close to a
quote I think.) Some of those means are technological, maybe even many
of those means.


Clearly not all, though, or we'd have done it by now.

We do not have *all* the means, because it hasn't happened yet; IMO the means
we don't have (or at least don't apply) are not about technology and are the
most crucial ones.



John Schinnerer - MA, Whole Systems Design
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