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  • From: <P.Tsiavos AT lse.ac.uk>
  • To: <commons-research AT lists.ibiblio.org>, <commons-research AT lists.ibiblio.org>
  • Subject: Re: [Commons-research] Culture and Science
  • Date: Wed, 14 May 2008 14:33:18 +0100

Do we need to have a separate Science Commons discussion or is this going to
be covered by another panel in the main iSummit event? Perhaps If John
Wilbanks is around he could help us in organizing a panel or providing a sc
presentation.

Regarding the licencing issue, I m wondering whether there is more need for
tools packaging existing licences and making their operation easier to
understand rather than producing yet another licence. There is also a problem
with applying a single licence for multiple types of material. Having said
that I would really love to read more on your idea Victoria :)

best
Prodromos

-----Original Message-----
From: commons-research-bounces AT lists.ibiblio.org on behalf of Victoria Stodden
Sent: Wed 5/14/2008 2:19 PM
To: commons-research AT lists.ibiblio.org
Subject: Re: [Commons-research] Culture and Science

I am a fellow at the Berkman Center at Harvard Law School and not a Science
Commons person, but I'd love to be involved in such a session. I've
submitted my license idea to the iSummit research track and I'm very
interested in the discussion on how science, particularly computational
science, is being encouraged by regulatory systems. My PhD is in statistics
and I have been very heavily exposed to computational research in many
fields and I consider myself a computational scientist.

I am not sure what structure you are envisioning for the research track, but
it seems presentations or discussion sessions/panels could be very fruitful.
I would love a chance to present about licensing structures, and the
problems faced by the rapidly growing number of computational scientists as
they try and communicate their work.

Victoria

On 5/13/08 10:39 PM, "Giorgos Cheliotis" <giorgos AT smu.edu.sg> wrote:

> It would be great if we can somehow make sure that the science commons
> people are involved in the research track of the isummit, at least on a
> session regarding open tools and open data. Any advice on how we can make
> this happen?
>
>
> On 5/14/08 8:14 AM, "Mike Linksvayer" <ml AT creativecommons.org> wrote:
>
>> On Tue, May 13, 2008 at 4:16 PM, Victoria Stodden <vcs AT stanford.edu> wrote:
>>
>> I proposed a hybrid of these two types of licenses for the computational
>>
>> research product ­ so all components are covered, and the scientist is
>>
>> encouraged to release every component of their research.
>
> I'd suggest instead
>> of a hybrid license that attempts to cover
> everything using appropriate
>> license(s) for each component: a OSD/FSD
> compliant software license (which
>> includes GPL) for source code, a CC
> license (preferably CC BY) for papers and
>> other non-software
> copyrightable stuff, a PD dedication/waiver for data. This
>> way each
> component gets to play in the relevant commons. A new license
>> that
> covers everything would have to be incredibly careful to not
>> be
> incompatible with the much larger pools of
>> free/open/libre
> software/works/data.
>
> Re data, please
>> see
> http://sciencecommons.org/weblog/archives/2008/05/12/how-to-free-your-fact
>> s/
> and
>> http://sciencecommons.org/projects/publishing/open-access-data-protocol/
> or at
>> least engage Science Commons in a discussion -- they've thought
> tons about
>> this stuff.
>> :)
>
> Mike
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