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  • From: sindi keesan <keesan AT sdf.lonestar.org>
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  • Subject: Re: [BL] Tseng with X servers
  • Date: Thu, 25 Aug 2005 15:48:44 +0000 (UTC)

I have the Tseng ET6000 (2.5MB video ram) and the Compaq MV520 now working with the SVGA server and xterm (I had to run ldconfig after adding the library libXaw.so.6 so it would be recognized - someone else mentioned this on the net.)

rxvt still does not work under SVGA or W32 X server (does it do so for anyone with a different video chip?).

svga server does 1280 nicely and the next time I booted the MV520 monitor displayed the part that had been missing at the bottom. It has a sort of stripey effect at the top and right now.

Abiword loads under the svga X server in BL2, same as it did in BL3.
!!!!!!!

So BL2 xset is not working with Xvesa or xfbdev, though BL3 xset works properly (in BL3) and BL2 xset works properly under regular X.

Xvesa and xfbdev work badly with Tseng on two cards in three computers but support rxvt (in BL2, did not try BL3 xfbdev).

rxvt is not working (with Tseng) with regular X servers svga and w32, though it works with Xvesa and xfbdev. xterm works with everything.

If I had stuck with the bl2-x setup (plain VGA) would abiword have worked or does it need more than 16 colors? (flwriter needed 256, as does links2).

Is there some way to create your own working modeline line for a monitor?


(I just crashed Xvesa again with Ctrl-Alt-Backspace. It is less likely to crash if you exit with Logout, or with an exit from rxvt).



On Thu, 25 Aug 2005, sindi keesan wrote:

Tried XF86_SVGA with Tseng ET6000 because Abiword won't work in BL2 under
Xvesa (xset won't work) or xfbdev (does not even get as far as xset not
working) and it might work with plain X.

Among other error messages: Can't load color "Black" and error opening
security policy file (which I also got for Chips and Technologies but I
think this could be ignored). XFree86 is supposed to be buggy for the
Tseng cards. I can next try the XF86_W32 server (specific to Tseng) and
run the configuration program to generate XF86Config. Wish me luck!


It turns out that the problem is with rxvt, not the server. Something to
do with rxvt can't load "white" or "Black". I had the same problem with
the W32 server.

The standard ranges offered by my sample XF86Config file or by xf86config
when I ran it only let me do 1024x768. I searched on MV520 (my Compaq
monitor) and modeline and found someone else's specs and suggested
modeline, which got me to 1280. Xvesa and xfbdev do 1280 more easily but
since I have 2MB video RAM they do it BADLY - 256 colors, blue on black.

My range is 31.5-54kHz hsync, 50-120Hz vert refresh, and I added
Modeline "1280x1024" 8686 1280 1280 1536 1664 1024 1025 1038 1042

1280 looks rather fuzzy but the colors are correct and the monitor at
least lets me adjust the size and position and shape of the viewing
screen. The bottom part of icewm is cut off no matter what size or
position I use - I see a very narrow white strip only. ???
No crashes on exit from X.

I have a Matrox card that displays only at 1024 on another monitor that I
know does 1280 (with Tseng) and will try the X server with researched
modeline - or is there some way to determine the correct modeline
yourself?. (DOS video diagnostic program won't display more than 1024,
nor will zgv, but one of them USED to work at 1600 and must have failed
somehow). We have monitors that won't do more than 800 with S3 or Cirrus
but do 1024 with Tseng or Trident so xsvga might be the cure for them too.

(Thanks to David for dragging me through this on a nonstandard laptop
where I was getting 4-color Xvesa).

BUT I CAN'T USE THE ICEWM MENU NOW - rxvt won't work

xinit got me icewm. Ctrl-ESC brought up the menu. Opera worked but
nothing else did other than Logout. xv xpdf gs. Even Edit did not work -
these all rely on rxvt, which seems to be buggy with the tseng card under
regular X servers.

With XF86_SVGA rxvt 'can't load color "Black"', and with w32 server it
can't load white OR black. With Xvesa it works fine.


On exit I also get messages about 'Using ET6000-specific Color-expansion
Indirect CPU to screen color expansion (with svga server - is there some
advantage to w32 accel?).



So I tried to install xterm (which was already in my menu) by copying it
from the xbin.tgz package. It needs libXaw.so.6, so I copied that from the
package and linked to it (as in the install script): ln -s libXaw.so.6.1
libXaw.so.6 (and also the same for libXaw.so) ldd still says I don't have
libXaw.so.6 and xterm won't work either and on exit from X it still says
it can't find that library.

??? How do I get this library recognized? Rebooting did not help. The
other libraries that I copied the same way are recognized.
I tried copying libXaw.so.6.1 to libXaw.so.6 - that does not help either.

I don't want to install 10MB of xbin.tgz just to get one file.


xterm: error while loading shared libraries: libXaw.so.6: cannot open
shared object file: No such file or directory

Does this mean libXaw.so.6 is missing something it is dependent on and if
so, how do I figure out what it is? An ldd on it shows that everything is
there (X11 Xext ICE SM Xt Xmu). (Or does ldd not work on lib files?).

I am ending my experiment because I just tested Xvesa and it crashed on
exit and I no longer can use my VGA terminals. xfbdev uses a kernel that
won't let me mount the CD-ROM drive. the X servers won't let me use rxvt
and xterm won't work. Xvesa is usable (to 1024 with 2MB video RAM) on
computers without Tseng video but I like that card (it does 100 columns in
text mode). Abiword won't work with Xvesa or xfbdev but I really don't
need it in BL2, it works in BL3. I would like very much to be able to do
X with the Tseng cards at 1280, and without crashing.

Is there a more recent rxvt that would work in BL2 with Tseng/svga?
I got the one from Sw7.1. David, would you want to compile it statically?
The BL3 one is not static, mine is dated 2004 - was this compiled by
Steven or from Slackware? 67K.

Sindi
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