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Re: [SM-Sorcery] wget .so dependencies (possibly global problem)
- From: Casey Harkins <charkins AT upl.cs.wisc.edu>
- To: Arwed von Merkatz <v.merkatz AT gmx.net>
- Cc: SourceMage Sorcery List <sm-sorcery AT lists.ibiblio.org>
- Subject: Re: [SM-Sorcery] wget .so dependencies (possibly global problem)
- Date: Wed, 4 Feb 2004 15:26:20 -0600 (CST)
Perhaps some people have the LDD_CHECK turned off in sorcery?
-casey
On Wed, 4 Feb 2004, Arwed von Merkatz wrote:
> On Wed, Feb 04, 2004 at 08:14:24AM -0500, Paul wrote:
> > Did cast --fix detect the problem?
>
> It did detect and fix it fine on my system for wget and fetchmail, which
> were the only ones affected by this.
> It seems to be a bit different on some systems, e.g. on IRC someone had
> the problem that 'make' was linked to libintl, so the recast failed.
>
> > On Wed, 2004-02-04 at 08:08, Robin Cook wrote:
> > > I have had this problem on 4 different machines so far. On everyone on
> > > of them just recasting wget fixed the problem (of course it wasn't
> > > trying to upgrade wget either.)
> > >
> > > CuZnDragon
> > > Robin Cook
> > >
> > > On Wed, 2004-02-04 at 07:06, Paul wrote:
> > > > cast --fix is supposed to detect and fix these problems. Most spells
> > > > aren't as problematic as wget, since if --fix finds a problem with
> > > > wget,
> > > > it can't very well d/l sources to recompile can it ;)
> > > >
> > > > Anyhow, when I upgraded gettext, I didn't have any errors. Another
> > > > person on IRC did. I've no idea why... however I did write a little
> > > > tool
> > > > that would check all binaries and libs installed by a spell and make
> > > > sure that all the libs needed are provided by a spell that it depends
> > > > on. afraydknot has it and will likely be integrating it with his
> > > > prometheus work.
> > > >
> > > > On Wed, 2004-02-04 at 07:00, Ondra Tomecka wrote:
> > > > > Hi all,
> > > > >
> > > > > I just updated few spells, gettext as one of them. Gettext updated
> > > > > library
> > > > > libintl.so from libintl.so.2 to libintl.so.3. I would not expect
> > > > > this to
> > > > > cause any problems, as file libintl.so still exists and correctly
> > > > > points
> > > > > to new version. However, I tried to summon some other spell, and
> > > > > wget
> > > > > failed with message that it cannot find libintl.so.2 (which it
> > > > > cannot
> > > > > becase it's not there anymore).
> > > > >
> > > > > I made a little research with ldd to find out that there are lot of
> > > > > spells
> > > > > which expect exact major version of library (which is
> > > > > understandable as
> > > > > change in major version usually means ABI change), but this means
> > > > > that
> > > > > upgrade of major version of shared library can break lots of
> > > > > programs at
> > > > > once if it deletes previous version.
> > > > >
> > > > > One possible solution for this can be to recompile all spells which
> > > > > use
> > > > > the upgraded library, but I'm afraid that this could possibly be
> > > > > terribly
> > > > > time-consuming.
> > > > >
> > > > > Another possibility would be to leave previous version available,
> > > > > and add
> > > > > it to list of files of the spell which installs new version, so it
> > > > > would
> > > > > still be tracked by sorcery. And possibly check if existing older
> > > > > versions
> > > > > are still being used by some spell, which would be probably very
> > > > > slow too.
> > > > > Or add sorcery subcommand to check for unused older versions and
> > > > > remove
> > > > > them ;-)
> > > > >
> > > > > The more I think about it, the more I like the latter option with
> > > > > added
> > > > > subcommand to sorcery. Only bad thing about it is a lot of work
> > > > > which it
> > > > > would require...
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Any thoughts about this?
> > > > >
> > > > > Andy
> > >
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Re: [SM-Sorcery] wget .so dependencies (possibly global problem)
, (continued)
- Re: [SM-Sorcery] wget .so dependencies (possibly global problem), Jeremy Kolb, 02/05/2004
- Re: [SM-Sorcery] wget .so dependencies (possibly global problem), Andrew, 02/05/2004
- Re: [SM-Sorcery] wget .so dependencies (possibly global problem), Hamish Greig, 02/05/2004
- Re: [SM-Sorcery] wget .so dependencies (possibly global problem), Ondra Tomecka, 02/05/2004
- Re: [SM-Sorcery] wget .so dependencies (possibly global problem), Casey Harkins, 02/05/2004
- Re: [SM-Sorcery] wget .so dependencies (possibly global problem), Eric Sandall, 02/05/2004
- Re: [SM-Sorcery] wget .so dependencies (possibly global problem), Eric Schabell, 02/05/2004
- Re: [SM-Sorcery] wget .so dependencies (possibly global problem), Eric Sandall, 02/05/2004
- Re: [SM-Sorcery] wget .so dependencies (possibly global problem), Eric Sandall, 02/04/2004
- Re: [SM-Sorcery] wget .so dependencies (possibly global problem), Eric Sandall, 02/04/2004
- Re: [SM-Sorcery] wget .so dependencies (possibly global problem), Casey Harkins, 02/04/2004
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Re: [SM-Sorcery] wget .so dependencies (possibly global problem),
Robin Cook, 02/04/2004
- Re: [SM-Sorcery] wget .so dependencies (possibly global problem), Ondra Tomecka, 02/04/2004
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Re: [SM-Sorcery] wget .so dependencies (possibly global problem),
Eric Sandall, 02/04/2004
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Re: [SM-Sorcery] wget .so dependencies (possibly global problem),
Paul, 02/04/2004
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Re: [SM-Sorcery] wget .so dependencies (possibly global problem),
Eric Sandall, 02/04/2004
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Re: [SM-Sorcery] wget .so dependencies (possibly global problem),
Eric Schabell, 02/05/2004
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Re: [SM-Sorcery] wget .so dependencies (possibly global problem),
Eric Sandall, 02/05/2004
- Re: [SM-Sorcery] wget .so dependencies (possibly global problem), Hamish Greig, 02/05/2004
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Re: [SM-Sorcery] wget .so dependencies (possibly global problem),
Eric Sandall, 02/05/2004
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Re: [SM-Sorcery] wget .so dependencies (possibly global problem),
Eric Schabell, 02/05/2004
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Re: [SM-Sorcery] wget .so dependencies (possibly global problem),
Eric Sandall, 02/04/2004
- Re: [SM-Sorcery] wget .so dependencies (possibly global problem), Hamish Greig, 02/04/2004
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Re: [SM-Sorcery] wget .so dependencies (possibly global problem),
Paul, 02/04/2004
- RE: [SM-Sorcery] wget .so dependencies (possibly global problem), evraire, 02/04/2004
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