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Re: [SM-Sorcery] wget .so dependencies (possibly global problem)
- From: Ondra Tomecka <otom7630 AT lucy.troja.mff.cuni.cz>
- To: SourceMage Sorcery List <sm-sorcery AT lists.ibiblio.org>
- Subject: Re: [SM-Sorcery] wget .so dependencies (possibly global problem)
- Date: Wed, 4 Feb 2004 22:59:28 +0100 (CET)
But this won't solve problem if readline or ncurses upgrade major version
and bash stops working, as without bash you won't launch cast --fix.
;-)
Andy
On Wed, 4 Feb 2004, Paul wrote:
> Part of cast --fix works exactly that way. It makes sure that all the
> libs a spell needs are there. If they aren't, it'll cast stuff to make
> it right.
>
> On Wed, 2004-02-04 at 15:18, Ondra Tomecka wrote:
> > Yeah I agree that leaving old libs in system indefinitely is really bad
> > idea. But leaving it in system when something requires it (especially if
> > that something can be bash or make) seems as much better way to go than
> > let the system break and see if user can fix it. Then cast --fix or some
> > new sorcery/cast parameter could recast spells which use older versions
> > of
> > some libraries.
> >
> > In fact as I think about it, cast --fix could check if the .so required
> > by
> > a spell is deprecated and recast the spell if so, removing deprecated
> > library in the process.
> >
> > To lace's concern about who is going to implement it, I'm willing to do
> > it
> > as my lifetime (not much, but every little bit counts, eh?) experiences
> > show, if you want something implemented, do implement it yourself ;-)
> > I just want to get clearer vision how such solution should work before
> > trying it out ;-)
> >
> > Andy
> >
> > On Wed, 4 Feb 2004, Arwed von Merkatz wrote:
> >
> > > On Wed, Feb 04, 2004 at 12:30:41PM -0500, Jeremy Kolb wrote:
> > > > Cast --fix takes way to long so most people ctrl-c out or just don't
> > > > run
> > > > it.
> > >
> > > Leaving old libs around for all spells is a _very_ bad idea, that's the
> > > whole point cast --fix is meant to solve. Doing it for a few specific
> > > libs that may break basesystem programs on major updates could be a good
> > > idea though.
> > >
> > > > On Wed, 2004-02-04 at 10:11, Ladislav Hagara wrote:
> > > > > > cast --fix would detect this problem, but somehow I don't think
> > > > > > we should
> > > > > > expect users to do cast --fix after every upgrade.
> > > > >
> > > > > I thought majority of our users update their boxes by "sorcery
> > > > > system-update" and "cast
> > > > > --fix" is a last part of this batch.
> > > > > It is a good prevention.
> > > > >
> > > > > > The possibility that upgrade of some spell would break lots of
> > > > > > spells at once, or even
> > > > > > only one
> > > > > > but important, seems very bad for me.
> > > > >
> > > > > With openssl (0.9.6-> 0.9.7) we had similar problems
> > > > > https://lists.ibiblio.org/sympa/arc/sm-grimoire/2003-January/001302.html
> > > > >
> > > > > > I'm still thinking about leaving older versions in place ;-)
> > > > >
> > > > > In same case it could be very useful.
> > > > > We only have one problem, who and when implement it? :-((
> > > > > We need more developers.
> > > > >
> > > > > Now if we have problems with non compatible library the easiest way
> > > > > for us to resolve it
> > > > > is to temporarily use old library from /var/cache/sorcery.
> > > > >
> > > > > - lace -
> > > > >
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Re: [SM-Sorcery] wget .so dependencies (possibly global problem)
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Re: [SM-Sorcery] wget .so dependencies (possibly global problem),
Robin Cook, 02/04/2004
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Re: [SM-Sorcery] wget .so dependencies (possibly global problem),
Paul, 02/04/2004
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Re: [SM-Sorcery] wget .so dependencies (possibly global problem),
Arwed von Merkatz, 02/04/2004
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Re: [SM-Sorcery] wget .so dependencies (possibly global problem),
Ondra Tomecka, 02/04/2004
- Re: [SM-Sorcery] wget .so dependencies (possibly global problem), Paul, 02/04/2004
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Re: [SM-Sorcery] wget .so dependencies (possibly global problem),
Ladislav Hagara, 02/04/2004
- Re: [SM-Sorcery] wget .so dependencies (possibly global problem), Jeremy Kolb, 02/04/2004
- Re: [SM-Sorcery] wget .so dependencies (possibly global problem), Arwed von Merkatz, 02/04/2004
- Re: [SM-Sorcery] wget .so dependencies (possibly global problem), Ondra Tomecka, 02/04/2004
- Re: [SM-Sorcery] wget .so dependencies (possibly global problem), Paul, 02/04/2004
- Re: [SM-Sorcery] wget .so dependencies (possibly global problem), Ondra Tomecka, 02/04/2004
- Re: [SM-Sorcery] wget .so dependencies (possibly global problem), Eric Schabell, 02/05/2004
- Re: [SM-Sorcery] wget .so dependencies (possibly global problem), Jeremy Kolb, 02/05/2004
- Re: [SM-Sorcery] wget .so dependencies (possibly global problem), Andrew, 02/05/2004
- Re: [SM-Sorcery] wget .so dependencies (possibly global problem), Hamish Greig, 02/05/2004
- Re: [SM-Sorcery] wget .so dependencies (possibly global problem), Ondra Tomecka, 02/05/2004
- Re: [SM-Sorcery] wget .so dependencies (possibly global problem), Casey Harkins, 02/05/2004
- Re: [SM-Sorcery] wget .so dependencies (possibly global problem), Eric Sandall, 02/05/2004
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Re: [SM-Sorcery] wget .so dependencies (possibly global problem),
Ondra Tomecka, 02/04/2004
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Re: [SM-Sorcery] wget .so dependencies (possibly global problem),
Arwed von Merkatz, 02/04/2004
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Re: [SM-Sorcery] wget .so dependencies (possibly global problem),
Paul, 02/04/2004
- Re: [SM-Sorcery] wget .so dependencies (possibly global problem), Eric Schabell, 02/05/2004
- Re: [SM-Sorcery] wget .so dependencies (possibly global problem), Eric Sandall, 02/05/2004
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Re: [SM-Sorcery] wget .so dependencies (possibly global problem),
Robin Cook, 02/04/2004
- Re: [SM-Sorcery] wget .so dependencies (possibly global problem), Eric Sandall, 02/04/2004
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