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  • From: Robin Cook <rcook AT wyrms.net>
  • To: Eric Sandall <eric AT sandall.us>
  • Cc: sm-grimoire <sm-grimoire AT lists.ibiblio.org>
  • Subject: Re: [SM-Grimoire] New init system?
  • Date: Mon, 24 Nov 2003 18:27:56 -0600

If I remember reading the stuff about this his system is geared towards
desktops only, at least that is what I seem to remember.

CuZnDragon
Robin Cook

On Mon, 2003-11-24 at 18:07, Eric Sandall wrote:
> Quoting Arwed von Merkatz <v.merkatz AT gmx.net>:
> > On Mon, Nov 24, 2003 at 03:22:48PM -0800, Andrew wrote:
> > > Id rather not deal with a second init conversion. There were enough
> > > potential problems swapping once. There are still (i hear) some spells
> > > that havent had their init scripts converted yet. Of course thats just
> > > my opinion from a user perspective.
> > >
> > > I really like simpleinit, and I think that it works well with/for our
> > > system. Have we found any bugs with it? Has anyone found any bugs? That
> > > may have a lot to do with it not being updated for a year. Granted 2.6
> > > may present new challenges for init systems, but I dont think they will
> > > be insurmountable.
> > >
> > > SystemServices seems interesting, some ideas are vaguely reminicent of
> > > djb's daemontools. But it seems like just another wave to ride. I want
> > > something that works and thats stable.
> > >
> > > Also, simpleinit-msb is apparently GPL, which means we can fork it and
> > > improve it if need be. If the need arises in the future I'd be happy to
> > > assist in taking it under the smgl wing rather than dealing with yet
> > > another init conversion and watching my boxes pathetically update and
> > > lose all their services and customizations again.
> > >
> > > just my thoughts.
> > >
> > > -Andrew
> >
> > Well, any new init conversion is, if it happens at all, far in the
> > future. Afaik SystemServices has had no release so far (although the
> > author seems to have booted some systems with it), and i definitely
> > won't promote switching to a 0.0.1 version for something as important as
> > init :)
> >
> > simpleinit works fine for me, and if we ever need new features in it
> > that can't be handled by the bash rc/auto_init scripts, the simpleinit
> > codebase is quite clean and not too hard to understand.
> >
> > Concerning a graphical boot with progress bars and animations for
> > starting services, that can be done using the bootsplash kernel patch
> > and some utilities (plus some additions to the rc and smgl_functions
> > script).
>
> And this is what I was looking for. :) I'm not suggesting we move
> immediately,
> and I really do like simpleinit as well (and as it's been pointed out, since
> it's GPL'd we could pick it up) and I haven't found any noticeable bugs.
>
> I just thought this system looked interesting, but I'm weary from the last
> conversion. ;/ Also, SystemServices (SS) seems to require both X (as it
> starts X ASAP to display the rest of the boot sequence, but I don't think
> it's
> truly required) and Python (I've asked the author, as it doesn't seem to
> actually say it uses Python, but rather C, though he mentions using Python
> scripts).
>
> -sandalle





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