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[Ismael Luceno <ismael.luceno AT gmail.com>]

El Tue, 1 Apr 2008 21:58:28 +0800
sqweek <sqweek AT gmail.com> escribió:

> On Tue, Apr 1, 2008 at 7:34 AM, flux <flux AT sourcemage.org> wrote:
> >  In my opinion
> >  it's better to keep the sorcery/cleanse/etc., but clean up the name
> >  space for consistency. As an example, dispel -d doesn't dispel
> > (well, OK, it does, but it also casts, which is the important
> > part). This should be moved to cast -d in my opinion.
> 
>  I vote for a new command - resurrect/recall/exhume/reanimate.
> 
> > Also, having all the different
> >  cast/gaze/cleanse/scribe commands accessible via sorcery (like
> > sorcery cast $SPELL) would help, because then users really only
> > need to remember one command: sorcery. If they forget what to do
> > with it, RTFM :)
> 
>  No, no, god no. One of my favourite things about smgl is that it
> avoids[1] the gigantic "do-everything-under-the-sun" interface
> (complete with man page that if printed out could just about wrap
> around the circumference of the sun), in favour of smaller, simpler
> tools.
> 

git does something like that, and it's composed of many small tools;
these features aren't mutually exclusive.

>  No, the nice part about smgl is not having to read through gobs of
> man pages everytime you want to do something. Not having to remember
> 18 different flags and strange command line semantics because there's
> one tool to do each task so each just needs a small set of options.
> 

+1

>  I wouldn't say sorcery is perfect - I think the scripts could use
> some more encouragement to work together... eg, cast --queue doesn't
> need to exist if sorcery queue just listed the out-of-date spells on
> stdout.
>
>  For me, the nicest toolsets come out of having a rich set of
> primitives. I don't have any problem with sorcery queue behaving as it
> does, as I wouldn't consider sorcery a primitive - it does fancy menus
> and stuff for the user's benefit. But, sorcery queue should be
> implemented on top of a more primitive command that simply does output
> out-of-date spells.

+1

<...>
> gaze
> activity/install/install-full/install-spell/compile/sum/md5sum/size
> All log related. I suggest moving them to a new script "journal", and
> normalise the interface so that the default is all spells, and each
> line of output is prefixed with spell-version (maybe only if multiple
> spells were selected).

-1, IMO, these commands should be renamed, but kept into gaze.

> gaze show-held/show-exiled
>  freeze -l (for list)
> 
>  Finally, move all the single queries to a new script, "divine" (as in
> the verb).
> gaze provides/what/short/where/website/sources
> divine provider/what/short/(section/path)/website/source
> 
>  Which leaves gaze with a bunch of random stuff, and probably breaks
> as near every script as I'm going to get without being silly.
> -sqweek

-1.

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Ismael Luceno

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