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[Flavien Bridault <vlaaad AT sourcemage.org>]

Le vendredi 05 mai 2006 à 20:56 +0200, Arwed von Merkatz a écrit : 
> On Fri, May 05, 2006 at 01:35:47PM -0500, Jeremy Blosser (emrys) wrote:
> > On May 05, Arwed von Merkatz [v.merkatz AT gmx.net] wrote:
> > > as the process of how to get fixes into stable(-rc) grimoire apparently
> > > isn't clear to everyone, here's how I think the process should be.
> > > This is mostly a draft to get comments, but we definitely need some
> > > policy like this to ensure stable is as stable as we can get it.
> > > This isn't really anything new, just a clarification of how the process
> > > is supposed to work, extending it to security updates.
> > > 
> > > - a new flag "integrate to stable-rc" will get added to bugzilla
> > > - bugs get filed against the highest grimoire in the stability range
> > >   that they apply to, i.e. first to stable, then stable-rc, then test
> > 
> > I like this clarification, as I haven't been sure on it before.  Can we 
> > add
> > something about how the fixed/verified/closed flags are to be used?  I
> > think we have coommon practice of closing things when they reach the
> > grimoire they were filed against, but I'm not sure that's written down.
> 
> Good point, I forgot adding that. Bugs are to be closed once the fix is
> in the grimoire the are filed against. If a bug applies to stable-rc,
> but was filed against test by the reporter, it should be changed to say
> stable-rc for this reason.
> 
> > > - bugs get fixed _only_ in test grimoire as usual
> > > - once they're fixed in test, the "fixed in lesser branch" flag is set
> > >   to "+", and the "integrate to $BRANCH" flags are set to "?" for the
> > >   branches they apply to
> > > - one of the gatekeepers (currently Eric Sandall, Seth Woolley and
> > >   myself) approves or denies the request(s) for integration, if it's
> > >   denied, an explanation of the reasons is added to the bug 
> > 
> > Is the APL included in that like I am for other stuff Eric does?  I'm
> > asking because I don't know... FWIW I don't really want to be a gatekeeper
> > but will do it if required when none of the rest of you are available for
> > some reason and it's something that can't wait for you.
> 
> I wanted to suggest you as a fourth gatekeeper, but if you don't really
> want to do it, I'm sure we can find others. Having one or two more
> gatekeepers is certainly a good idea.
> 
Just a small question (maybe silly :-/ ), I agree that we need
gatekeepers to grant the integration in stable-rc; but do you really
need them to perform the integration ? Can't we trust the maintainer to
do that ? Or is this technically to much different from an integration
from devel to test ? 
I could even imagine (but maybe we don't have the technology yet ;-) )
to allow a temporary access to the spell in stable-rc once the
gatekeeper granted the integration.

> > > - once the request is approved (flag set to "+"), it can be integrated
> > >   to the branch for which it was approved, currently that integration
> > >   can be done by anyone with access to those grimoires
> > 
> > I know we have an 'integrated to stable' flag as well, which I believe is
> > to be set by whoever does the integration, correct?   Will we have one of
> > those for 'integrated to stable-rc' as well?
> 
> Do we really need those flags? Once the bug is fixed in the grimoire it
> was filed against the bug is resolved as FIXED anyway. The only use for
> the flag would be if it was only integrated to one of the grimoires it
> was flagged for.
> 
> > > I want the same process to be followed for security updates.
> > > If a guru does some fixes without a bug report and wants those
> > > integrated to stable-rc/stable, a new bug report should be filed for
> > > that, stating the reasons for the request.
> > > 
> > > Yes, this does slow down getting bugfixes into stable-rc and stable, but
> > > that's not a bad thing. We're working hard on getting stable to a really
> > > stable state (and prometheus showed we still have quite a bit of work
> > > ahead of us), so we should be really confident that no integration to
> > > stable breaks stuff that previously worked. It's just a matter of
> > > getting another pair of eyes to screen the changes right now, we'll
> > > probably want to add some prometheus testing to that process in the
> > > future though.
> > > 
> > > Any comments are welcome.
> 
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