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  • From: Seth Alan Woolley <seth AT positivism.org>
  • To: Paul Mahon <dufflebunk AT dufflebunk.homeip.net>
  • Cc: sm-discuss AT lists.ibiblio.org
  • Subject: Re: [SM-Discuss] Starting and Stopping critical services when upgrades happen
  • Date: Thu, 18 Aug 2005 09:40:54 -0700

Not restarting may very well break things, too. ;)

On Thu, Aug 18, 2005 at 12:28:21PM -0400, Paul Mahon wrote:
> Our position for as long as I can remember is that services aren't
> restarted automatically. Cast used to do this for a short period of
> time, but there were many complaints, so it was removed. This is for
> stability. If the program is running, restarting it may very well break
> things. By having cast restart things behind your back you may have your
> mail server go down without even knowing.
>
> On Thu, 2005-18-08 at 09:04 -0700, David Brown wrote:
> > I mentioned the patches we do to the udev spell to linux-hotplug-devel
> > and he mentioned some things of importance. I mentioned why the patch
> > was needed in several parts...
> > This is what he said about removing the killall udevd call that we
> > patch out of the makefile.
> >
> > <snip>
> > > 1) no package to start or stop services in the process of installing
> > > the package... hence the removal of the killall udevd && udevd
> > > --daemon call
> >
> > So you install a new version of udev and don't kill the old udevd
> > program? That's not good at all. Remember, if you set DEST_DIR, that
> > doesn't get called. That is there to allow you to build and not mess
> > with any running services (as is needed on rpm and deb build machines.)
> > </snip>
> >
> > I was wondering what our official position is on starting and stopping
> > critical services on spell upgrades...
> >
> > - David Brown
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