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[Seth Alan Woolley <seth AT positivism.org>]

On Thu, Aug 18, 2005 at 09:04:57AM -0700, David Brown wrote:
> I mentioned the patches we do to the udev spell to linux-hotplug-devel
> and he mentioned some things of importance. I mentioned why the patch
> was needed in several parts...
> This is what he said about removing the killall udevd call that we
> patch out of the makefile.
> 
> <snip>
> > 1) no package to start or stop services in the process of installing
> > the package... hence the removal of the killall udevd && udevd
> > --daemon call
> 
> So you install a new version of udev and don't kill the old udevd
> program?  That's not good at all.  Remember, if you set DEST_DIR, that
> doesn't get called.  That is there to allow you to build and not mess
> with any running services (as is needed on rpm and deb build machines.)
> </snip>
> 
> I was wondering what our official position is on starting and stopping
> critical services on spell upgrades...

Our official position is not to stop and restart services.

However, that was because some people didn't want services stopped and 
restarted.

We could include an option in sorcery to toggle this effect that can be 
a general default and a per-spell query during init script installation 
-- sorcery can handle the starting and stopping if that's the case as 
long as telinit run blah restart is supported.

I'm beginning to think perhaps udev should have an init script so we can 
do stuff like this, instead of being an exception.

Seth

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