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- From: Pieter Lenaerts <e-type AT cwazy.co.uk>
- To: "Mathieu L." <lejatorn AT smgl.homelinux.net>
- Cc: sm-discuss AT lists.ibiblio.org
- Subject: Re: [SM-Discuss] SMGL advertising
- Date: Sun, 23 Jan 2005 13:41:45 +0100
I don't agree with you mathieu ;)
check below
On Sun, 23 Jan 2005 13:31:09 +0100
"Mathieu L." <lejatorn AT smgl.homelinux.net> wrote:
> I'm not convinced of the usefullness of doing that; if you look at all
> the distros which are above smgl, you'll realize that only a few are
> listed on the maintainers' pages: it's usually Debian, Mandrake,
> Fedora/Red Hat, and Gentoo.
> Yopper, Vector, Archlinux, yellow dog, Conectiva, etc... all of them
are
> above smgl in rank though I don't think they advertize like you
propose
> to do.
the fact that yopper,etc. do nothing means nothing. we have to look around
and do what we think is good, plan ahead what we think that will be good,
evaluate if what we thought was good prooved to be good and adapt our
strategy.
> Besides, I think it would be nice to see links to smgl appear
> here and there only because people and maintainers tried smgl and
liked
> it, not because we asked them to do so. To me, a distro have to earn
its
> fame by itself, not be advertised like a commercial product.
1. in your line of thought, there is no way to get any attention at all from
users:
noone knows a distro so noone likes a distro so noone speaks of it so noone
knows of it so noone likes it, ...
2. publicity != advertisement: publicity is attention you get from third
parties such as distrowatch or linuxgazette, while advertisement is using
mass communication for a price to spread your message instead of a message by
a third party. publicity is what we need, since people want opinions from
others than our developers, and certainly not empty advertisement messages.
3. this is a textbook example of how product-focused strategy fails: producer
knows that his product is best, thus assumes that everybody shares his
opinion and from his lack of market-orientation, he alienates from what
consumers want, what other producers do,... there's nothing wrong with
knowing your product is best, but keep your eyes open to what happens around
you or your product will not be known or used and your product will not stay
the best.
> Yeah, I know, I would suck as a seller.... ;)
nothing wrong with that ;)
I suck at technical IT knowledge :)
>
> Cheers,
Huge green-tea-cheers back
> Mathieu.
>
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[SM-Discuss] SMGL advertising,
Flavien Bridault, 01/23/2005
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Re: [SM-Discuss] SMGL advertising,
Arwed von Merkatz, 01/23/2005
- Re: [SM-Discuss] SMGL advertising, Pieter Lenaerts, 01/23/2005
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Re: [SM-Discuss] SMGL advertising,
Mathieu L., 01/23/2005
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Re: [SM-Discuss] SMGL advertising,
Pieter Lenaerts, 01/23/2005
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Re: [SM-Discuss] SMGL advertising,
Flavien Bridault, 01/23/2005
- Re: [SM-Discuss] SMGL advertising, Mathieu L., 01/23/2005
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Re: [SM-Discuss] SMGL advertising,
Jeremy Blosser, 01/23/2005
- Re: [SM-Discuss] SMGL advertising, Anton Kovalyov, 01/24/2005
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Re: [SM-Discuss] SMGL advertising,
Mathieu L., 01/23/2005
- Re: [SM-Discuss] SMGL advertising, Adam Clark, 01/23/2005
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Re: [SM-Discuss] SMGL advertising,
Flavien Bridault, 01/23/2005
- Re: [SM-Discuss] SMGL advertising, Sergey A. Lipnevich, 01/23/2005
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Re: [SM-Discuss] SMGL advertising,
Pieter Lenaerts, 01/23/2005
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Re: [SM-Discuss] SMGL advertising,
Duane Malcolm, 01/23/2005
- Re: [SM-Discuss] SMGL advertising, Andrew "ruskie" Levstik, 01/23/2005
- Re: [SM-Discuss] SMGL advertising, Andrew, 01/24/2005
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Re: [SM-Discuss] SMGL advertising,
Arwed von Merkatz, 01/23/2005
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