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- From: Lawrence London <lfljvenaura@gmail.com>
- To: permaculture <permaculture@lists.ibiblio.org>
- Subject: Re: [permaculture] official certification
- Date: Thu, 7 Jul 2016 17:32:23 -0400
On Thu, Jul 7, 2016 at 3:47 PM, Jason Gerhardt <jasongerhardt@gmail.com>
wrote:
> I have to
> tell the stories of climate function and hydrology and soil science and
> social history to effectively narrate what it means to be alive on this
> planet. The curriculum then builds into how to harness or deflect these
> forces to create a civilization that is integrated rather than
> disintegrating.
>
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> Where I think we are lacking is in guiding people in a way
> that they can integrate THEMSELVES into that greater story.
>
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This is classic insight and wisdom and a brilliant observation.
Very fine! This is one of the best things I have read in this list since it
started.
That should be at the top of the list of teaching objectives.
You shouw them the world of permaculture - they become interested and want
to know more - they then want to learn wat their role should be on a site
with a permaculture design that they created and built, and will have to
maintain and enrich.
> Do we give them
> a new story to live out (you be a farmer, you be a natural builder)? That's
> not how I would approach designing for a client, so it's certainly not how
> I'm gonna teach people to be pattern readers and how to design. Giving
> people a new story to live is just the same old narrative that anybody has
> ever been given (you be a banker, you be a drug dealer). Where the PDC can
> shine more is in helping people discover their own story. I
>
That is a really fine essay, Jason. I would like to include some of the
above quotes in the homepage for this list if that is OK with you, with
full attribution.
A thought:
Permaculture encourages one to design and build a site where everyting is
arranged (as Mollison says) "in the right place", orderly in a unique
permaculture way, but in reality you are creating a living system on a site
that is in maximum disorder, i.e. a maximum number of possibilities for
creating and sustaining interactive, interdependent colonies of organisms,
whether they be people or scarab beetles.
LL
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Re: [permaculture] official certification,
Toby Hemenway, 07/07/2016
- Re: [permaculture] official certification, Lawrence London, 07/07/2016
- Re: [permaculture] official certification, Lawrence London, 07/07/2016
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Re: [permaculture] official certification,
Jason Gerhardt, 07/07/2016
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Re: [permaculture] official certification,
Lawrence London, 07/07/2016
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Re: [permaculture] official certification,
Koreen Brennan, 07/07/2016
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Re: [permaculture] official certification,
Lawrence London, 07/07/2016
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Re: [permaculture] official certification,
Koreen Brennan, 07/07/2016
- Re: [permaculture] official certification, Lawrence London, 07/07/2016
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Re: [permaculture] official certification,
Koreen Brennan, 07/07/2016
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Re: [permaculture] official certification,
Lawrence London, 07/07/2016
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Re: [permaculture] official certification,
Koreen Brennan, 07/07/2016
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Re: [permaculture] official certification,
Darrell E. Frey, 07/07/2016
- Re: [permaculture] official certification, Jason Gerhardt, 07/08/2016
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Re: [permaculture] official certification,
Lawrence London, 07/07/2016
- <Possible follow-up(s)>
- Re: [permaculture] official certification, scrooge McDuck, 07/08/2016
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Re: [permaculture] official certification,
scrooge McDuck, 07/09/2016
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Re: [permaculture] official certification,
Steve Hart, 07/09/2016
- Re: [permaculture] official certification, Lawrence London, 07/09/2016
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Re: [permaculture] official certification,
Steve Hart, 07/09/2016
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