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  • From: "Linda Shewan" <linda_shewan@yahoo.com.au>
  • To: "'permaculture'" <permaculture@lists.ibiblio.org>
  • Subject: Re: [permaculture] Leaving the Evil Empire of Facebook - Medium
  • Date: Mon, 4 Jan 2016 16:47:07 +1100

With respect, I disagree, though I certainly understand the sentiment.

If you share to 'Only Me' you can find anything in the future by going
through your own timeline.

I find facebook an invaluable tool to connect with some people that I
otherwise would not manage to stay in contact with. I have also shared much
information that has been valued by others on their learning journeys on a
variety of topics and I have definitely learned a lot from articles people
or businesses in my network have posted.

As soon as a conversation turns to rage or trolling, which it certainly does
on emotive topics, I just leave the conversation instead of getting swept up
into it. It's a choice and sometimes I think it has actually helped me
develop an inner strength against angry people. Certainly that has been the
effect of online gaming my son plays, people can call him whatever they like
without him being affected by it. I'm not that resilient but working on it.

As with all things there are positives and negatives. I'm certain I'm on all
sorts of 'lists' now which could be to my detriment in the future but the
scanning of my google searches (now using safer duckduckgo though), email
and sms would have the same effect so I'm not sure it really makes any
difference. If you choose to have the use of new technology then that's the
price you pay.


Linda


-----Original Message-----
From: permaculture [mailto:permaculture-bounces@lists.ibiblio.org] On Behalf
Of Lawrence London
Sent: Monday, 4 January 2016 3:37 PM
To: permaculture <permaculture@lists.ibiblio.org>
Subject: Re: [permaculture] Leaving the Evil Empire of Facebook - Medium

On Sun, Jan 3, 2016 at 9:19 PM, Linda Ray <lindaray@att.net> wrote:

> The problem I see with programs like facebook is, there doesn't seem
> to be any real way to track and/or recover valuable data, so it isn't
> a useful learning tool. That means all it's good for is logistics and
> gossip. That could be a bad combination.
>
> It *is* a great tool for whipping up lots of people who aren't
> inclined to think for themselves, and getting them swept up into
> somebody else's emotional agenda, without having to be fettered by
trackable facts.
> IMO that makes it an instrument whose only use is peer pressure by
> those who are susceptible to brainless emotionalism, and by those who
> want to manipulate others by using peer pressure. Bad juju IMHO.
> For anyone whose passion is learning, there is nothing of substance on
> Facebook.
>
> Namaste,
> Linda :-)
>

You stated the basic fact so precisely I can hardly add a thing. Classic &
thanks, Linda, you really nailed it.
All this certainly falls under the domain of the three permaculture ethics.
This list neither adds or takes away anything from discussion. It is just a
vehicle for conversation, a plain brown wrapper, generic online public
resource, digital paper and pencil. FarceBunk is a tool for surveillance and
intelligence gathering. Every list in existence probably is also. FB,
Twitter, Instagram, Imgur, Pinterest, Reddit are not places to go to develop
and deploy a collaborative knowledgebase. This list is far beyond any social
media resource in that respect. The better ones of those are about news
worth reading to stay properly informed through cascading comments and links
to external sites, Tsu, Voat, Snapzu, Hubski and
Google+ and sometimes Reddit, Pinterest and Ello are a few of those This
list can do the same thing and you can do highly organized searches of the
archives, something not possible with social media.


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