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  • From: Jay Woods <woodsjaya@gmail.com>
  • To: permaculture <permaculture@lists.ibiblio.org>
  • Subject: Re: [permaculture] Leaving the Evil Empire of Facebook — Medium
  • Date: Sun, 3 Jan 2016 11:15:34 -0800

The reason I don't use facebook is *because* only the traffic that
shouldn't have been on the "small, high-traffic site" gets siphoned off.
Who *wants* to see it. Not me.

On Sun, Jan 3, 2016 at 11:04 AM, Lawrence London <lfljvenaura@gmail.com>
wrote:

> On Sun, Jan 3, 2016 at 12:51 PM, Linda Ray <lindaray@att.net> wrote:
>
> > Thanks for the post Larry.
> >
> > I refuse to have anything to do with facebook.
> > Namaste,
> >
>
> Thanks for the feedback, Linda. I went back and spent some time evaluating,
> posted some of my best, got no feedback, left permanently. Its OK for over
> the backyard fence and morning chat but
> nothing beyond that. Plus they do evil stuff. I guess you say my previous
> post about farcebook:
> <>
> Pogo might have said.......ah, the barbs and burrs of brave
> Earth-worshipping agrarian activism and peasant
> sovereignty...................
> I mentioned previously how Farcebook has siphoned off so much valued
> traffic from small, high quality, independent Internet discussion forums. A
> friend sent me this yesterday:
> "The Monsanto-Facebook connection is a deep one. The top 12 investors in
> Monsanto are the same
> <
> https://jonrappoport.wordpress.com/2014/03/22/facebook-and-monsanto-top-shareholders-are-identical/
> >
> as
> the top 12 investors in Facebook, including the Vanguard Group. The
> Vanguard Group is also a top investor in John Deere, Monsanto’s new partner
> for ‘smart tractors’
> <
> http://www.npr.org/sections/thesalt/2014/01/21/264577744/should-farmers-give-john-deere-and-monsanto-their-data
> >,
> bringing all food production and consumption, from seed to data, under the
> control of a handful of investors."
> Internet Freedom
>
> http://www.commondreams.org/views/2015/12/29/free-basics-will-take-away-more-our-right-internet
> Censorship
>
> http://www.commondreams.org/news/2015/12/22/error-451-new-dystopian-internet-code-very-important-meaning
> <>
> And even more:
> On Wed, Dec 30, 2015 at 11:45 AM, Douglas Hinds <cedecor@gmx.net> wrote:
>
> > In other words, "Smart Tractors" ASSUME that the wild disparities in soil
> > quality and productivity that currently exist within the fields
> cultivated
> > by conventional farmers are "natural" and attempt to compensate for this
> > deficiencies using artificial means rather than take corrective measures
> to
> > improve the underlying reasons that these less fertile and productive
> areas
> > exist, thus capitalizing on the deficiencies that were created by the
> > anti-biological paradigm they espouse in order to increase farmer
> > dependency on farming systems that ignore the role soil micro organisms
> > play, thus perpetuating a constant need for the inputs these corporate
> > entities commercialize, derived from off-farm, non-renewable natural
> > resources that they themselves were allowed to extract from the
> environment
> > under the current socio-economic-political system, which they have been
> > able to manipulate to their own advantage, to the detriment of the
> > legitimate interests of everyone else.
> >
> > The article (quoting a farmer subscribing to this mindset) refers to
> > "variations" in "soil types" without taking into account the principles
> of
> > either pedology or edafology. Still worse, the bulk of the governmental
> > agencies responsible for supporting the efforts of farmers to farm
> > successfully likewise ignore these basic issues, which fully explains the
> > origin of the current dilemma existing in society as a whole. The
> public's
> > access to healthy and health giving food has been severely limited by the
> > corporate entities benefiting from these conceptual errors.
> >
> > Even a remake of the nation's educational system is insufficient as long
> > as decent food is not readily available to the public (and Organic Food
> is
> > not a viable solution, given the artificial costs that have been imposed
> in
> > an effort to correct the imbalances created by the domination of a
> > incorrect paradigm driven by economic gain rather than a commitment to
> feed
> > and thus satisfy the needs of the population; an idea that itself sounds
> > radical -but really isn't- within the current context).
> >
> > Living organisms created the atmosphere's composition and dynamic state,
> > as well as soil and it's ability to sustain crops. Therefore, the biota
> of
> > both soil and water are responsible for maintaining an equilibrium
> capable
> > of supporting life and feeding the public, without wild swings.
> >
> > The wrong technology is being developed in response to this fundamental
> > need.
> >
> > More regarding what I believe SHOULD be done, soon.
> >
>
> Exactly, precisely right.
> Will they change and do farming as you (and I and many others) would
> recommend?
> Will they stop hydrofracking for fossil fuels, especially natural gas, when
> they know the risks to air, surface water, drinking water aquifers, soil,
> wildlife and the health of those living in proximity to those sites?
> Will greed take a back seat to common sense and human decency?
>
> There would have been no need for government intervention and regulation of
> the alternative, natural agricultural sector of the economy to the degree
> that we are seeing it now if the groundswell of organic agriculture that
> started in the late sixties had been allowed to proliferate and develop
> unabated while monsanto, ag gmo bioscience and other agribusiness
> corporations were small and containable and unable to interfere with
> grassroots American agriculture, from backyard gardens to local market
> farms and gardens to medium and large family farming operations scattered
> from urban to rural locations.Those farmers and gardeners, established, in
> training and transitional, knew how to farm and grow and sell a safe,
> nutritious product. Is American farming now dominated by big ag? How
> difficult is it for a small local farm from one quarter acre to two hundred
> acres in size to go online,accessing all available market opportunities and
> establish an economically viable, sustainable operation?
>
>
> --
> Lawrence F. London
> lfljvenaura@gmail.com
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