permaculture

["Scott Pittman" <scott@permaculture.org>]

Thanks for the video Steve.  These are the questions that we must answer in 
permaculture or we are pissing up a rope!  All of the deceit mentioned in 
this presentation exist in permaculture and in may cases in the leadership or 
“stars” of permaculture, which leads me to question is the word salvageable 
or should we move on with a better and more true model of change?  I think 
all the elements exist in permaculture as a design process but they have been 
so compromised that we must invent a new language and perhaps a new title for 
what we are about.  

 

I often speak of this lack of language in describing pattern.  We have lost 
so much descriptive language that we cannot accurately describe our 
environment anymore.  Branching patterns of moving water is hard pressed to 
name each branch.  What is the real difference between a rill, brook, stream, 
rivulet, river, estuary, and... and.. we have a supposed six orders and can 
only begin to name each of them in a clear and distinctive way.  The same 
with tree branching.  If we are unable to succinctly describe our environment 
can we really see it??  I don’t think so.  

 

I am currently writing a book called “The Dharma of Permaculture” in which I 
am using the ethics and natural principals as the foundation of a true dharma 
of what we are seeking.  This is done in an ashram in Costa Rica where I 
managed to get a “writers” grant.  My pay back  is to meditate every morning 
at 4 AM and afternoon at 5:00PM.  My penance is being vegetarian for months 
on end.  Fortunately I am able to write in this solitude and could not in my 
home environment.  I’m a hundred pages in and hope I don’t have to start all 
over as I think through and learn more about the Hindu view of the world and 
cosmology.

 

Wishing you well and thanks for keeping me in the loop.

 

Namaste,

 

Scott Pittman

 

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From: Steve Hart [mailto:stevenlawrencehart@gmail.com] 
Sent: Saturday, December 19, 2015 1:48
To: Leo Bakx; pirn@permaculture.org.uk
Cc: permaculture; europeanpermaculturenetwork@googlegroups.com; Scott Pittman
Subject: Re: QUESTIONS .. of corruption etc etc

 

Yeah Leo..couldn't agree anymore. Love Buckies saying that Scott Pittman has 
used on his signature byline

 

""To change something build a new model that makes the existing model 
obsolete" 

 

But my argument is more than just being involved in this very paradigm that 
most of us are. It is more about being aware of how the existing paradigm is 
driving the collapse over the horizon and how we need to be aware of the many 
policies driving it. The key one being infiltration and manipulation of our 
new paradigm. Then for us to be able to identify these and the persons that 
have been planted or bribed who are rubbing shoulders with us and even more 
than that.

 

Some good links now exist to allow us to begin looking into this world here's 
but one

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wwd-yNHQ7Fs 
<https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wwd-yNHQ7Fs&feature=em-subs_digest> 
&feature=em-subs_digest

 

I'm keen to see more..obviously when we connect into Youtube there are dozens 
of like links that appear in the right hand collumn menu.

 

Steve Hart

 

 

 

On 15 December 2015 at 21:35, Leo Bakx <leo@aardwerk.org> wrote:

Buckmister Fuller comes to mind: "The function of what I call design science 
is to solve problems by introducing into the environment new artifacts, the 
availability of which will induce their spontaneous employment by humans and 
thus, coincidentally, cause humans to abandon their previous 
problem-producing behaviors and devices. For example, when humans have a 
vital need to cross the roaring rapids of a river, as a design scientist I 
would  design them a bridge, causing them, I am sure, to abandon 
spontaneously and forever the risking of their lives by trying to swim to the 
other shore."
(1983, R. Buckminster Fuller, Cosmography)

 

In other words: design something better and compelling to seduce people to a 
better behavior.

 

IMHO, perhaps clinical pathological cases excepted, greed is the fear of 
missing out on something. "dog eat dog mentality for survival", paraphrasing 
the expression mistakenly attributed to Darwin "survival of the fittest" is a 
convenient myth for people in the fear-industry. Ideas are powerful, but only 
to the extend that you let them be. If permaculture is about the practice of 
radical imagination (2014, Permaculture Design: On the Practice of Radical 
Imagination, Katja Rothe) then imagine this: the most effective solution (in 
systems thinking at least) is to transcend models, paradigms, philosophies or 
whatever you want to call it, let go and just go with the flow of Life, the 
universe and Everything (1982, Douglas Adams).

 

l:-)

 

 

On 14 dec 2015, at 17:54, Steve Hart wrote:





Its time to consider but not to get paranoid and go over the top and fall 
apart but worthy to start considering.

 

As the world moves rapidly to many forms of collapse which should be evident 
by now. How do we as a species cope with this. And, how does the Permaculture 
fraternity cope with it ?

 

My observation suggests that the greed factor mixed with a dog eat dog 
mentality for survival for oneself is becoming more and more apparent. 
Overlay this with the corporate agendas driven by the 1% who dictate the 
worlds resources and business streams who also manipulate every other stream 
of society they have a well developed plan in locking masses into the 
ferriswheel. Its easy to lock up CEOs with huge salaries and then dictate 
their entire modus operandi. They follow this pattern with the senior 
management tiers, who are all aspiring CEOs for they all want to plant their 
face into that trough as well. Then there are countless middle managers who 
also aspire to such greatness and salaries. We all know scientists and 
engineers can be bought. Politicians likewise.

 

So what of the people within the world of Permaculture ? One could assume 
that due to its rapidly rising popularity and its potential success in 
countering the meglamaniac activity of the corporate 1% (C1) and their 
countless slaves Permaculture must be a prime sitting duck to be infiltrated 
and managed to manipulate for the goals and objectives of the C1. 

 

How easily could this be done ?

 

We must know by now as Mollison always told us that operating on funding and 
grants is like living on a poison carrot. There is never any sustainability 
or security in the strategy. It seems that many many different organisations 
in our diverse networks search out and expect their survival and longevity 
their lifeline to be propped up and supported by such hand-outs. A fatal flaw 
at best. Mollison also spoke of sustainable business enterprise and how 
imperative it was to recognise true sustainability. 

 

Perhaps we could open this subject up for debate and see where we could 
evolve it.

 

We haven't seen a good debate on this channel for awhile. Something to ponder 
over the dearth of xmas

 

Have a good one

 

 

 

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Ecology Architect

Designer, Teacher, Builder of Ecologically Sustainable Resilient 
Environments, through Urban Design, Architecture, Landscape Architecture and 
Systems Ecology.​
Skype: tipenemanawa

Phone: +64 220 75 62 11

 

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www.permacultureglobaldesign.org

 

The Permaculture College of Europe. 

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