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[Koreen Brennan <cory8570@yahoo.com>]

Thanks for pushing this idea. We are teaching these strategies in our design 
courses and have a thriving Time Bank in our community (one of our PDC 
graduates, Marie Nelson, took this on and did a tremendous job with it), lots 
of gift economy, some are working on getting a Community Bank going, we have 
several cooperative companies going, Slow Money, a strong local business and 
local agriculture movement, one of my graduates held a Financial Permaculture 
conference, we're holding another one this spring, etc, all in a few years 
since I and others started educating people about these concepts in this 
area. It doesn't take much to get people interested - quite a few people 
understand this system isn't working that well. I know there are others who 
are doing a lot in their areas too. Time Bank is apparently growing 
exponentially in a number of areas. 
 
Koreen Brennan

www.growpermaculture.com
www.facebook.com/growpermaculturenow
www.meetup.com/sustainable-urban-agriculture-coalition


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On Mon, Sep 30, 2013 at 6:00 PM, Steve Hart 
<stevenlawrencehart@gmail.com>wrote:

> Great topic...great debate that needs much more development input and
> dispersal. IMO we have difficulty moving forward on many of the tremendous
>

I agree.


> variety of options available to us through our Permaculture wisdom until we
> fully recognise the treadmill we are locked into by the existing systems.
>

The first step for individuals is to recognize the fact that you don;t have
to be locked into
those treadmills, ratraces, jumping through hoops, etc. Stop, be still and
reflect, think about other possibilities.
Move ahead and roll onwards.


> These systems began their design and development in the 14th century by the
> great money changers and usery agents. It has obviously evolved
> considerably since then to the point of reality that 98% of the world are
> designed slaves to their system.
>

Most already know this.

Our challenge therefore is to escape,
> breakout and get off that treadmill.
>

Amen to this, I agree completely. This is how the natural agriculture,
natural food and permaculture movements got started.
Tune in, observe, document, preserve and seek out creative alternative
solutions.


> We also need to be teaching these
> strategies in our PDCs and specialist one week follow up courses. Anyone
> interested ? please let me know...to at least continue the debate ?
> Steve Hart
>

Excellent plan.

LL



KB

>  > >> design.
> > >> Koreen Brennan
>
LL
> > Great post. {If this list had such features] I would give it an upvote
> and
> > an 5/10 rating.

That was a typo; I meant an 8/10 rating.
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On Tue, Oct 1, 2013 at 9:17 AM, Koreen Brennan <cory8570@yahoo.com> wrote:

> Thanks for pushing this idea. We are teaching these strategies in our
> design courses and have a thriving Time Bank in our community (one of our
> PDC graduates, Marie Nelson, took this on and did a tremendous job with
> it), lots of gift economy,


I did not know that time banking and community banking had become movements.

Want to know what else is needed? 1) Cooperative Food Banks (owned and run
of by and for consumers and producers) - direct barter or use a Time
Bank-like system , 2) Cooperative Farmers Markets 3) and for outside-market
distribution Farmers Marketing Cooperatives, owned and operated of by and
for the gardeners and farmers - 1,2,3 can be combined in low demand areas,
separated in higher demand areas. Using my notion of a computer/web-based
resource a services and production production, marketing and distribution
network could be really useful and help tie together all the elements of
everything I have listed and described above.

>From the Wikipedia
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Time_banking*

Time banking* is a pattern of reciprocal service exchange that uses units
of time as currency <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Currency>. It is an
example of a complementary monetary
system<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monetary_system>.
A time bank, also known as a service exchange, is a community that
practices time banking. The unit of currency, always valued at an hour's
worth of any person's labor, used by these groups has various names, but is
generally known as a time dollar in the USA and a time credit in the UK.
Time banking is primarily used to provide
incentives<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Incentive>and rewards for work
such as mentoring children, caring for the elderly,
being neighborly—work usually done on a volunteer basis—which a pure 
market
system devalues. Essentially, the "time" one spends providing these types
of community services earns "time" that one can spend to receive services.[1
] <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Time_banking#cite_note-1> As well as
gaining credits, participating individuals, particularly those more used to
being recipients in other parts of their lives, can potentially gain
confidence, social contact and skills through giving to others. Communities
therefore use time banking as a tool to forge stronger intra-community
connections, a process known as "building social
capital<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Social_capital>".
Time banking had its intellectual genesis in the USA in the early
1980s.[2]<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Time_banking#cite_note-2>By
1990, the Robert
Wood Johnson 
Foundation<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Wood_Johnson_Foundation>had
invested USD 1.2 million to pilot time banking in the context of
senior
care. Today, 26 countries have active Time Banks. There are 250 Time Banks
active in the UK[3]
<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Time_banking#cite_note-3>and over 276
Time Banks in the U.S.
[4] <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Time_banking#cite_note-4>


> some are working on getting a Community Bank going,


>From the Wikipedia
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Community_bank

A *community bank* is a depository
institution<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Depository_institution>that
is typically locally owned and operated. Community banks tend to focus
on the needs of the businesses and families where the bank holds branches
and offices. Lending decisions are made by people who understand the local
needs of families, businesses and farmers. Employees often reside within
the communities they serve.

In the United States, community banks are defined as independent banks and
savings institutions holding companies with aggregate assets less than $1
billion.[1]<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Community_bank#cite_note-FDIC-Trends-2004-1>From
1985 to 2004 they comprised 94% of all banks in the United States, but
the proportion of expanding total national deposits that the Community
Banks held declined from about 25.89% of all U.S. deposits in 1985 to
13.55% of the U.S. deposits in
2003.[1]<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Community_bank#cite_note-FDIC-Trends-2004-1>
[2]<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Community_bank#cite_note-FDIC-BR-Critchfield-2004-2>
[3]<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Community_bank#cite_note-FDIC-BR-Jones-2006-3>
A site with resources for community banking:

Community Banking Connections
http://www.communitybankingconnections.org/

This site hosts the online version of the *Community Banking
Connections*publication, a nationwide Federal Reserve System resource
for community
banks. It also provides extensive information and real-time policy updates
to ensure that community bankers have access to the important information
they need to maintain safe and sound banking practices in an evolving
economy.


> we have several cooperative companies going, Slow Money, a strong local
> business and local agriculture movement, one of my graduates held a
> Financial Permaculture conference, we're holding another one this spring,
> etc, all in a few years since I and others started educating people about
> these concepts in this area. It doesn't take much to get people interested
> - quite a few people understand this system isn't working that well. I know
> there are others who are doing a lot in their areas too. Time Bank is
> apparently growing exponentially in a number of areas.
>
> Koreen Brennan
>
> www.growpermaculture.com
> www.facebook.com/growpermaculturenow
> www.meetup.com/sustainable-urban-agriculture-coalition
>