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[Michael Thompson <mike.brian@gmail.com>]

The original article seemed to be colored some by recent american
political views with all of this talk of freedom to grow without
hindrance from regulations and taxes while they even give you land if
your intent is to farm. Sounds like they are dressing up the situation
in Russia to validate some personal political grievance. To me.
Even if that were the case and this implied Russian agricultural
Renaissance isn't all it's cracked up to be it is still a far cry from
having only a few large companies owning all of the farms. Although I
don't know the details there, the remark in the article about free
land makes me wonder if the state retains control - because here in
America it appears as if these small farmers are easily lured into
high density meat farming and ultimately succumb to the expense of
becoming exotic animal processing equipment consumers. They have an
opportunity to at least learn from that hopefully. Someone should tell
them.

On 11/22/12, John D'hondt <dhondt@eircom.net> wrote:
>
> Just like Canada. But at least you have a summer there usually with long
> days of sunshine. Some places of the world have constant rain and low light
>
> conditions and massive parts of the world have a serious shortage of water.
>
> Very few places are ideal.
> It can't all be solved with high efficient LEDs.
> john
>
> The article notes that the short growing season presents a challenge.
> Maybe this momentum of self-sufficiency could be combined with, say,
> greenhouses and modern high efficiency LEDs and they could potentially
> become exporters of food...
>
> On 11/22/12, Toby Hemenway <toby@patternliteracy.com> wrote:
>>
>> On Nov 21, 2012, at 7:54 PM, Lawrence London wrote:
>>
>>> Russia’s small-scale organic agriculture model may hold the key to
>>> feeding
>>> the world | True Activist
>>> http://www.trueactivist.com/russias-small-scale-organic-agriculture-model-may-hold-the-key-to-feeding-the-world/
>>
>> Just to continue my theme, this is countered by
>>
>>> Due to a lack of local supply, Russia imports around 40 percent of its
>>> food consumption
>>
>> http://www.nzte.govt.nz/explore-export-markets/market-research-by-industry/Food-and-beverage/Pages/Food-and-beverage-market-in-Russia.aspx
>>
>> Russia is, I believe, the largest food importer in the world. They are
>> just
>> over half-way to feeding themselves. So of the numbers in that report,
>> 90%
>> of their potatoes, 59% of meat, etc., should be cut roughly in half,
>> since
>> the meaningful percent  is "of the food consumed by Russians," instead of
>> "grown by Russians." The main reason they aren't all starving is that
>> they
>> sell vast amounts of oil for food. 35 million small farms aren't doing
>> it.
>>
>> I must have gotten up on the doomer side of the bed this morning.
>>
>> Toby
>> http://patternliteracy.com
>>
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