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  • From: christopher nesbitt <christopher.nesbitt@mmrfbz.org>
  • To: permaculture <permaculture@lists.ibiblio.org>
  • Subject: Re: [permaculture] Russia’s small-scale organic agriculture model may hold the key to feeding the world | True Activist
  • Date: Thu, 22 Nov 2012 07:26:47 -0600

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On Nov 22, 2012, at 7:21 AM, Michael Thompson wrote:

> Oh hey. Since I've never brought it up or said anything.. I joined
> this mailing list a long time ago because I had become depressed and
> just needed some email so I'd have a reason to log on at all. These
> messages from this list have become something of a fixture and I only
> ever read this small fraction of them on a strictly out of the blue
> basis. I admire the permaculturalists but myself - I like the idea of
> millions of micro farms so long as they have machines to automate all
> of the work. I like machines and technology.
>
> On 11/22/12, Michael Thompson <mike.brian@gmail.com> wrote:
>> The article notes that the short growing season presents a challenge.
>> Maybe this momentum of self-sufficiency could be combined with, say,
>> greenhouses and modern high efficiency LEDs and they could potentially
>> become exporters of food...
>>
>> On 11/22/12, Toby Hemenway <toby@patternliteracy.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> On Nov 21, 2012, at 7:54 PM, Lawrence London wrote:
>>>
>>>> Russia’s small-scale organic agriculture model may hold the key to
>>>> feeding
>>>> the world | True Activist
>>>> http://www.trueactivist.com/russias-small-scale-organic-agriculture-model-may-hold-the-key-to-feeding-the-world/
>>>
>>> Just to continue my theme, this is countered by
>>>
>>>> Due to a lack of local supply, Russia imports around 40 percent of its
>>>> food consumption
>>>
>>> http://www.nzte.govt.nz/explore-export-markets/market-research-by-industry/Food-and-beverage/Pages/Food-and-beverage-market-in-Russia.aspx
>>>
>>> Russia is, I believe, the largest food importer in the world. They are
>>> just
>>> over half-way to feeding themselves. So of the numbers in that report,
>>> 90%
>>> of their potatoes, 59% of meat, etc., should be cut roughly in half,
>>> since
>>> the meaningful percent is "of the food consumed by Russians," instead of
>>> "grown by Russians." The main reason they aren't all starving is that
>>> they
>>> sell vast amounts of oil for food. 35 million small farms aren't doing
>>> it.
>>>
>>> I must have gotten up on the doomer side of the bed this morning.
>>>
>>> Toby
>>> http://patternliteracy.com
>>>
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