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  • From: Cory Brennan <cory8570@yahoo.com>
  • To: permaculture <permaculture@lists.ibiblio.org>
  • Subject: Re: [permaculture] Bamboo flood control
  • Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2011 06:05:01 -0800 (PST)

Would need more info. Are the areas that are flooding being monocropped,
cattle grazed, etc?  Floods in US cities have been much worse because of the
unsustainable farming practices throughout the entire watershed.  Have
wetlands been removed?  If so, rebulding them might be better than bamboo.

--- On Thu, 2/10/11, wenshidi@yahoo.co.uk <wenshidi@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:

From: wenshidi@yahoo.co.uk <wenshidi@yahoo.co.uk>
Subject: [permaculture] Bamboo flood control
To: "permaculture" <permaculture@lists.ibiblio.org>
Date: Thursday, February 10, 2011, 10:04 PM

Here is a question from a friend in Brazil.

"I'm trying to write something about bamboo against floods. I think you have
heard about Brazilians floods recently which cause nearly one thousand death.
Do you have any experience with that?"

Does anybody have any resources or recommendations

Thanks

Chris


     
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Subject: Re: [permaculture] Need some expert testimony
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Thanks for the note, I actually won the hearing and they ruled no nuisance
was on the property. I did remove quite a few of the logs, stacking them
behind the fence on an 18 inch platform, thus disguising them as firewood,
but I left the large logs we use for benches. I went to the hearing with 8
pages of citations from the internet on the use of logs in landscaping,
including a Wikipedia article on "stumping", which is a Victorian landscape
practice of using stumps and logs. Prince Charles apparently has the
largest "stumpery" in the UK, and my comment to them was that if it was OK
for Prince Charles, it ought to be OK for my neighborhood.

I did agree to move my compost pile and surround it with chicken wire. I
didn't tell them that I was moving towards more composting in place anyway,
and this particular compost pile was about 1/4 the size of last year's, and
I was making it mostly to make compost tea and to mix with potting soil.

I am going to frame the hearing officer's letter and put it on my "trophy
wall".

Bob Waldrop, Snowklahoma City

----- Original Message -----
From: "Steven & Margaret Eisenhauer" <eisenhauerdesign@earthlink.net>
To: "'permaculture'" <permaculture@lists.ibiblio.org>
Sent: Friday, February 11, 2011 7:43 AM
Subject: Re: [permaculture] Need some expert testimony


> Hi Bob,
> I have worked in suburbia, pulling permits and dealing with zoning
> officials
> and from my experience I would suggest getting a group of your neighbors
> together for a small meal or what ever to discuss what you are going
> through
> and what you are trying to do for your own sanity and for the larger
> community. Your goal is to get a group of your fellow citizens to make a
> statement of support for you that can be submitted in court or and perhaps
> they could be called to testify about your good character and why they
> support your landscaping.
> In a sense you have been chosen to represent all of nature before the
> court
> of ignorance. It becomes your work to compassionately educate and prod
> towards the goal of ecological wealth and the expansion of human culture
> to
> embrace it.
> I wish you success!
>
> Steven Eisenhauer
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: permaculture-bounces@lists.ibiblio.org
> [mailto:permaculture-bounces@lists.ibiblio.org] On Behalf Of Bob Waldrop
> Sent: Friday, January 28, 2011 5:19 PM
> To: permaculture
> Subject: [permaculture] Need some expert testimony
>
> As I think I noted here before, I am having problems with OKC code
> enforcement over my use of logs in my garden. (see
> http://www.bobwaldrop.net/?pA7 for background.) I contend that they are
> not trash as defined by the city ordinance, which speaks of trash as being
> items that are "refuse, litter, debris, paper, combustible materials,
> rubbish, offal, or wastge, or matter of any kind or form which is uncared
> for, discarded, or abandoned."
>
> I have yielded on some things, but I am holding out to keep a large trunk
> of
> an elm tree on our property which we use as a bench.
>
> They also want me to enclose my compost pile. It is enclosed on two sides
> by a fence, and thus is not visible from the street, but I don't want to
> enclose the whole thing. That isn't actually required by the city's code,
> and it seems to me that if I enclose it I could run into problems I don't
> have (like anaerobic digestion). Anyway, there is going to be a hearing
> on
> this and I am being represented by an attorney, and he suggests I come up
> with some expert testimony (either signed/notarized statements, or
> articles
> or books that could be submitted as evidence) regarding the utility and
> beauty of using logs in a naturalistic landscape design.
>
> So if anybody has any ideas on articles/books etc, or has some credentials
> that might impress a hearing officer, and would be willing to submit a
> letter to me that I could use, please contact me in private email at
> bwaldrop@cox.net
>
> Bob Waldrop
> Oklahoma City
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