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  • From: "Steven & Margaret Eisenhauer" <eisenhauerdesign@earthlink.net>
  • To: "'permaculture'" <permaculture@lists.ibiblio.org>
  • Subject: Re: [permaculture] Need some expert testimony
  • Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2011 08:43:53 -0500

Hi Bob,
I have worked in suburbia, pulling permits and dealing with zoning officials
and from my experience I would suggest getting a group of your neighbors
together for a small meal or what ever to discuss what you are going through
and what you are trying to do for your own sanity and for the larger
community. Your goal is to get a group of your fellow citizens to make a
statement of support for you that can be submitted in court or and perhaps
they could be called to testify about your good character and why they
support your landscaping.
In a sense you have been chosen to represent all of nature before the court
of ignorance. It becomes your work to compassionately educate and prod
towards the goal of ecological wealth and the expansion of human culture to
embrace it.
I wish you success!

Steven Eisenhauer


-----Original Message-----
From: permaculture-bounces@lists.ibiblio.org
[mailto:permaculture-bounces@lists.ibiblio.org] On Behalf Of Bob Waldrop
Sent: Friday, January 28, 2011 5:19 PM
To: permaculture
Subject: [permaculture] Need some expert testimony

As I think I noted here before, I am having problems with OKC code
enforcement over my use of logs in my garden. (see
http://www.bobwaldrop.net/?p=417 for background.) I contend that they are
not trash as defined by the city ordinance, which speaks of trash as being
items that are "refuse, litter, debris, paper, combustible materials,
rubbish, offal, or wastge, or matter of any kind or form which is uncared
for, discarded, or abandoned."

I have yielded on some things, but I am holding out to keep a large trunk of
an elm tree on our property which we use as a bench.

They also want me to enclose my compost pile. It is enclosed on two sides
by a fence, and thus is not visible from the street, but I don't want to
enclose the whole thing. That isn't actually required by the city's code,
and it seems to me that if I enclose it I could run into problems I don't
have (like anaerobic digestion). Anyway, there is going to be a hearing on
this and I am being represented by an attorney, and he suggests I come up
with some expert testimony (either signed/notarized statements, or articles
or books that could be submitted as evidence) regarding the utility and
beauty of using logs in a naturalistic landscape design.

So if anybody has any ideas on articles/books etc, or has some credentials
that might impress a hearing officer, and would be willing to submit a
letter to me that I could use, please contact me in private email at
bwaldrop@cox.net

Bob Waldrop
Oklahoma City
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