permaculture

[jamesdavid Sneed <harvestcircle@hotmail.com>]

Perhaps you can share your research sources  on each statement about the 
microbes so each of us can pursue that. Also, even if an organism has NOT 
been genetically engineered as in splicing, a few "non-gmo" breeding 
techniques would never occur in Nature without humans forcing them to happen, 
and thus also bear dangerous potential.
> Date: Mon, 3 May 2010 19:59:18 -0700
> From: cory8570@yahoo.com
> To: permaculture@lists.ibiblio.org
> Subject: Re: [permaculture] Oil spill - solutions?
> 
> Oil eating microbes die when the oil is gone. The oil, on the other hand, 
> sticks around in one form or other and keeps on killing. They are now using 
> toxic stuff that sinks it to the bottom of the ocean. I guess out of sight, 
> out of mind... The company I am most familiar with uses only existing 
> microbes, they are not GM at all. 
> 
> Cory
> 
> --- On Mon, 5/3/10, jamesdavid Sneed <harvestcircle@hotmail.com> wrote:
> 
> > From: jamesdavid Sneed <harvestcircle@hotmail.com>
> > Subject: Re: [permaculture] Oil spill - solutions?
> > To: permaculture@lists.ibiblio.org
> > Date: Monday, May 3, 2010, 2:13 PM
> > 
> > Aren't a lot of those oil-eating microbes genetically
> > modified? That would be cutting off our nose to spite our
> > face.
> > 
> > > Date: Sun, 2 May 2010 20:50:49 -0700
> > > From: cory8570@yahoo.com
> > > To: permaculture@lists.ibiblio.org
> > > Subject: Re: [permaculture] Oil spill - solutions?
> > > 
> > > I'm checking with a friend of mine who creates microbe
> > formulas to see if he has one for this problem. Some
> > microbes do eat oil, just need to assess the entire process
> > and all waste products, consequences, etc. Tailored,
> > cultured microbes might be best for this job. Anybody know
> > of any other organizations that might be able to handle
> > that?  Application will definitely be something to
> > solve.
> > > 
> > > Cory 
> > > 
> > > --- On Sun, 5/2/10, Lawrence F. London, Jr. <venaurafarm@bellsouth.net>
> > wrote:
> > > 
> > > > From: Lawrence F. London, Jr. <venaurafarm@bellsouth.net>
> > > > Subject: Re: [permaculture] Oil spill -
> > solutions?
> > > > To: "permaculture" <permaculture@lists.ibiblio.org>
> > > > Date: Sunday, May 2, 2010, 8:05 PM
> > > > Cory Brennan wrote:
> > > > > Interested to hear people's input on
> > permaculture
> > > > solutions for the Gulf oil spill. It's a real
> > real
> > > > mess!   
> > > > 
> > > > The dispersant is said to be as polluting as the
> > crude
> > > > oil.
> > > > 
> > > > Possible solutions:
> > > > 
> > > > Massive amounts of activated compost tea dropped
> > onto the
> > > > coastline and 
> > > > marshland from the types of planes used for
> > fighting forest
> > > > fires.
> > > > 
> > > > Large ships with open compartments could be used
> > for
> > > > brewing the ACT 
> > > > then delivering it to the coast, spraying it over
> > land with
> > > > large fire 
> > > > hoses. There are microbes that will eat the oil.
> > > > Kevin Topek: you mentioned this technology some
> > time in the
> > > > past.
> > > > 
> > > > A combination of clean tanker ships and
> > firefighting boats
> > > > could deliver 
> > > > the ACT to the beaches and marshes. It would take
> > time to
> > > > make the ACT 
> > > > but the raw materials are readily accessable and
> > the
> > > > technology is 
> > > > adequately developed. It could be used as soon as
> > the
> > > > beneficial microbe 
> > > > count has peaked. It would be better to use it
> > later than
> > > > not at all.
> > > > This is just a thought; I do not know if this
> > solution is
> > > > practical or not.
> > > > 
> > > > Put the equipment together
> > > > Find the starter material
> > > > Add the raw ingredients
> > > > Let it brew
> > > > Load into delivery equipment and apply
> > > > 
> > > > Get Paul Stamets involved to see if a fungal
> > purification
> > > > system can be 
> > > > used to degrade the oil.
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