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- From: "Scott Pittman" <scott@permaculture.org>
- To: "'permaculture'" <permaculture@lists.ibiblio.org>
- Subject: Re: [permaculture] Trends in America
- Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2008 10:23:37 -0600
Toby, you beat me to and much more eloquently than I had in my head.
Thanks,
Scott Pittman
Director
Permaculture Institute
www.permaculture.org
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[mailto:permaculture-bounces@lists.ibiblio.org] On Behalf Of Toby Hemenway
Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2008 9:52 PM
To: permaculture
Subject: Re: [permaculture] Trends in America
Marjory wrote:
>
> The absolute best thing you can do for your community is to quit
> teaching until you have implemented a design that provides at least half
> of your food and income needs, and all of your shelter and water needs.
Guess I better stop teaching, then. So should most of us.
Pardon my continuing curmudgeonliness, but formulas like that are not
permaculture--they are blanket prescriptions done without assessment of
individual needs or resources. Nothing in permaculture suggests that you
need to grow food yourself. Instead, we need to make sure that our food
needs are taken care of in a sustainable, ethical manner, and there are
many ways to do that. Same with shelter, water, and all the invisible
needs too. A permaculturist always has multiple ways of meeting
important functions. If someone is a great builder and a lousy gardener,
it would be foolish for them to beat their head against the wall trying
to grow food. They'd quickly abandon the whole effort, saying
"permaculture doesn't work for me!" Or they could build wonderful
shelter for others and trade or use the income to pay for local, healthy
food.
Permaculture is not about taking care of your own needs by yourself.
It's about creating relationships among the parts of a community so that
the community meets its needs in a sustainable way. And that community
can be a household, a village, a bioregion, or planet.
Toby
http://patternliteracy.com
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Re: [permaculture] Trends in America,
Trudie Redding, 10/28/2008
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Scott Pittman, 10/29/2008
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Re: [permaculture] Trends in America,
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Re: [permaculture] Trends in America,
Margaret L. Wilson, 10/29/2008
- Re: [permaculture] Trends in America, Steve Read, 10/29/2008
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Scott Pittman, 10/29/2008
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