permaculture

["Robert Waldrop" <bwaldrop@cox.net>]

One final note. . . we had a potluck meal at 
lunch, and I always think that potlucks are great 
ideas for one day events.  That way one person 
isn't consumed with cooking/preparing for the 
group, all can participate, and all take 
responsibility for the food.  Table fellowship is 
important.

Melbourne is a great city, I was there a while in 
1972, staying with a Greek family in Clifton Hill. 
We heated our room with charcoal briquets that we 
bought from a guy who came by once a week with a 
push cart loaded with big sacks of briquets.  I'm 
sure things have changed a lot since then. 
Pushcarts will be useful though.  we didn't spend 
a lot of time on it, but we did talk briefly about 
using handcarts to move grain.  That would require 
more carts, because the turn-around time is 
longer, and we figured there would be enough 
bicycles in the area to do the more-efficient 
bicycle cart, especially the rail-bike version 
which, lacking fuel for trains, would be the most 
efficient.

Being close to the ocean will be helpful for 
Melbourne, although that depends on what has 
happened with the fishing close to shore.  Also, 
IIRC, quite a bit of wheat is grown in Victoria, 
although I don't know how the drought is impacting 
that.  I don't know what we would do in Oklahoma 
without those large silos of grain and soybeans 
that ring the city and which even just before 
harvest will typically have enough product in them 
to feed the state the basic ration we devised.

Bob Waldrop
www.barkingfrogspermaculture.org

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Rafael Schouten" <talktoraf@hotmail.com>
To: <permaculture@lists.ibiblio.org>
Sent: Monday, September 22, 2008 10:50 PM
Subject: Re: [permaculture] Pre-design for 
collapse


> Hi Robert,
>
> the collapse workshop is a great idea, inspired 
> me to organise one in
> melbourne in the next few weeks. Any ideas for 
> form, content etc? what worked?
> cheers
>
> Rafael Schouten