permaculture

[Claudia Joseph <permie@earthlink.net>]

The glitch seems to be in the administration of any program we  
create.   Paper work isn't fun and it takes time.  There is no system  
to pay anyone for doing it.  And the US is so large that site visits  
can be expensive and time consuming.  I think what we lack is  
proximity and relationship - permaculture is spread out all over the  
place and finding the glue that binds us together is the challenge.  A  
directory of places where trainees can intern would be a start - but  
then, who would OK those?

Seeing the Diploma page is very helpful.  Thanks for sending that,  
Steve.  We attempted to start a diploma system in the US a few years  
ago.  Defining impartial criteria and nominating people to review  
applications must have bogged down the whole process. - I haven't  
heard anything recently.  Again, there is no pay for this time spent.   
I think everybody with a visible project is working pretty hard already.

Defining what a certificate means and getting national - and  
international - consensus on that would be a great first step.

Claudia


On May 8, 2008, at 2:46 AM, steveread wrote:

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> Thanks for taking the time to type all that out Darren, bon apetit.  
> As mentioned we are lucky here as PmC is relatively unorganised,  
> this is changing and these posts have helped. Up till now I've used  
> the self-published PDC certs and 2+ designers for diploma  
> accreditation, this has now changed to more organised. I'll type it  
> all up and Stella suggests that we all put up the different systems  
> here http://permacultureinstitute.pbwiki.com/DiplomaGroup
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> I didn't realise there was no Diploma system in the USA, maybe you  
> don't need one? Here with the French culture there is a "need" for  
> organised systems, associations etc, even if only to have something  
> to revolt against!
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> Kenavo,
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> Steve
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> Directeur de     l  'Université Populaire de Permaculture
> Biographie     (SteveR) http://permacultureinstitute.pbwiki.com/
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> 2008-05-0808:30:15